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Unread postAuthor: Mihlrad » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:52 pm

I dont care how big it is, if it was 9mm i still wouldnt do it, hell if it was the size used in the mini self defense hand guns, i wouldnt do it. A bullet is a bullet, and if you happen to slip you could hit the primer. Accidents happen every day. Go to the ER and ask a doctor some of the things they get each day.
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Unread postAuthor: CS » Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:55 pm

Im not terribly gun savy to the point that I can verbally assualt you with the specs of a gun, but I do know some things. (Dont worry if you didnt get that)

"You can squirt primers with oil to kill em. That's what they did for the decom. .50 caliber rounds they sold at the gun show last year..."

Not true! Neither does WD-40 work. My grandma gives almost all here money to the NRA so I get there magazines! Anywas they had a article specifically on it. Using such agents only "disable" it temperarly. The only way to truely terminate there life is to activate them. Spudshot is the "gun" guy of the forums (or so it seems with him blabing about "real guns".)

My method works, although as always there is proably a "safer" method. My freinds dad was like one of those Hatian Rebels or something and has a .50 cal MG. So we would take the slugs out, and crimp the opening over a fuse. I mean this was all in a wave of stupidty so do you really need to remove the powder charge?
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Unread postAuthor: ProfessorAmadeus » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:29 pm

lots of "self defence" guns are 45acp which are way bigger than a 9mm. I think the smartest way of doing this is spudshots way. Maybe you could ask a gunsmith to remove the primer, or buy a bullet puller for like 10 dollars and do lots and lots of bullets
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Unread postAuthor: mark.f » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:35 pm

Really, oil doesn't work? I knew WD-40 wouldn't, but I thought some lubricant, (not automotive, machine, gun oil), did the trick? I guess not. I maybe need to read some more magazines...
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Unread postAuthor: )DEMON( » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:54 am

To go into more detail I put the bullet in a wooden work bench which isn't flat so it gripped the bullet better. To get it out I moved the slug from side to side carefully. Is it dangerous to leave the primer in the case?
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Unread postAuthor: spudshot » Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:48 am

ProfessorAmadeus wrote:m16 bullets arnt big ( will still easly kill you ) most are .233 caliber. Unless you talking about the new .308 cal guns. really your not going to set it off unless you hit the primer


thats the AR-10, nice rifles, but for the price i'd go with an M1A. they're now also selling AR-15's/M16's in 6.8 SPC and 7.62x39mm though it'd be a [female doggy] to find magazines for. there's also a .30-06 and .50 bmg rifle built upon the AR frame

ProfessorAmadeus wrote:lots of "self defence" guns are 45acp which are way bigger than a 9mm. I think the smartest way of doing this is spudshots way. Maybe you could ask a gunsmith to remove the primer, or buy a bullet puller for like 10 dollars and do lots and lots of bullets


"self Defense" guns can be any gun, depending on the situation, .45 ACP is a great cartridge for SD since if you get hit with it, you aint about to get back up, but it really depends on preference, situation, and concealability.
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Unread postAuthor: mark.f » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:17 am

I would like to get a hold of one of those .30-'06 AR's. :!:
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Unread postAuthor: ProfessorAmadeus » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:35 pm

my grandpas ak47 is 7.62x39. Thats one fun gun to shoot. if you had the same gun you could shoot it blank but since you dont spudshot might have an answer for you.
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Unread postAuthor: boilingleadbath » Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:13 pm

I find that mild heating (with a propane torch) of the end of the case tends to decomission .22 LR shells pretty well. With the larger primer you'd find in a centerfire rifle round, you may want to wear hearing protectors while doing so.

Just don't do it with the powder or bullet still attached, or it could get interesting. (though I don't think you'll get a case rupture)
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Unread postAuthor: )DEMON( » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:25 am

I heard that the case will rupture and sent shrapnel all over the place. Is this a myth? I also put the slug back on the case after that. What can I do with the stick powder?
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Unread postAuthor: spudshot » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:42 am

yes, it is possible for a case to rupture outside the chamber, many times they happen with OLD OLD surplus ammo and people who arent familiar with dealing with "hangfires" it happened not too long ago at a machine gun shoot, a guy's K98 got a hangfire, he went to eject the round and it went off in his hand, i forget how many stitches he needed.

about the powder, you can just flush it down the toilet to dispose of it, in water it'll be no good
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Unread postAuthor: CpTn_lAw » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:57 am

The reason why bullet cases can explode when fired out of the barrel, is that the matierial used to build it is very heat sensitive and expands when shot. So, the chambre behind the barrel contains the expansion, but the moment you don't contain the expansion, it ruptures in bits...not very wishful. firearms cause harm to people, but not only the people that might be aimed...Weapons are used to cause harm. These are bad.

BTW, im a dumbass.
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Unread postAuthor: spudshot » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:35 am

CpTn_lAw wrote:...Weapons are used to cause harm. These are bad.


oooooh fork no buddy, with a knowledgable operator there is almost no chance of a gun hurting anyone, its when dumbasses who dont know what they're doing start freakin around with guns that bad things happen
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Unread postAuthor: Pete Zaria » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:23 pm

About the primer... I'm just curious, once you have the powder and bullet out of the case (so you're left with an empty brass shell with a primer) why not just tap the primer with a hammer? It'll just go *POP*.... Primers by themselves are pretty harmless, about as powerful as one of the little teeny firecrackers.

I used to use primers to ignight a mini spudgun :-) Worked pretty well, too.

By the way, I think as long as you're careful, pulling a bullet out of a jacket isn't very dangerous. Just make sure you don't do anything that could create sparks. But I guess my question is, why not just go to the local gunstore and buy bullet "parts" seperately? You can buy shells, powder, bullets, primers....


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Unread postAuthor: Darkerweb12 » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:29 pm

Look, Take two sets of pliers, grip one around the very neck of the round, right where the bullet enters the shell. Then rotate the bullet and pull up, it should come out. Then have your buddy put it into a gun (assuming he has the gun where the bullet came from) and fire it, only the primer should go off. Then put the bullet back in the casing :). If your buddy just found it on the ground, take the bullet out, empty the powder. Poke a hole in the ground with a stick, and slide the bullet, neck down, into it. Then take a peice of wood with a very small hole in it, as wide as a nail, and align it on top of the primer (the primer is the small round thing on the back of the bullet). Then take the nail and hit the primer. A primer has less power than a .22 shell, so don't worry about it flying off. Then your all set!
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