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Unread postAuthor: Flinchy » Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:26 pm

im been thinking about particle beams, energy beams etc. and i think i found a way you could do it. if you took a large pneumatic cannon of a sort and had a very thin tube as the barrel, but then you use hydrogen particles as the ammunition, or another one that can tag electricity onto it. then what you would have to do is generate millions of volts and tag it onto the hydrogen particles, and then shoot them out of the large air cannon, im sort of giving a reference to Nikola Tesla's idea he made out of it, but his was quite a bit different, what do you think would be possible? basically, how do you think an energy weapon would work?
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Unread postAuthor: SpudStuff » Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:48 pm

Lol, that would be a fricken tiny barrel to fit atoms...
And that there is the problem of the power supply. There is a reason why it hasn't been done.
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Unread postAuthor: Atlantis » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:41 pm

The hydrogen would'nt hold the charge, it would either change to Helium or shed the charge to the air, plus the fact that when you charge atoms they get excited and would fly out of the barrel right away. Even if it did hold a charge when it hits anything it probably would'nt let go of that charge. Maybe H-Bomb technology would be good reading for you, that "miht" elp you out.
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Unread postAuthor: FiveseveN » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:47 am

These must be the dumbest posts I've read in a while :D
It's all good fun, though.

@Flinchy: Tesla's idea was QUITE A BIT different.
Plasma cutters and ion engines have been around since the 60s. To give you an idea about the power and range of your cannon: it takes about 2 KW to create a plasma stream a couple of inches long.
Obtaining plasma is the least bit of our problems. It's how you contain it and project it that makes the difference between a torch and a cannon.

@Atlantis: Do you know what we call it when hydrogen "changes" to helium? Nuclear fusion. Be sure to let us know when you invent cold fusion.
Atoms don't get excited. Their particles do, and indeed some electrons will fly out of orbit, which is the whole point.
You can't charge atoms. You can turn them into ions. Ions bare a charge. Atoms are neutral.
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Unread postAuthor: zeigs spud » Thu Nov 16, 2006 3:15 pm

wouldn't need ab arrel to fit atems but it may work but i seriously dought it.
probs i see
-where u getting all that electriciity
-how to project the particals out of the cannon
-material to make the cannon out of
-how to get just hydrogen atmos in the cannon itself for refire
and many many others.....

mabey a simple plasma cannon? (flamethrower lol)
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Unread postAuthor: Hotwired » Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:56 pm

An electrically generated plasma projection weapon ain't gonna happen any time soon.

However no harm in thinking out loud about energy transfer weapons :)

Fire two darts at a conductive target each pulling out a very fine wire, on contact you shove a massive electrical charge through them, the wires vapourise into conductive plasma, target gets fried.

Sounds like an uber taser now I think about it.
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Unread postAuthor: boilingleadbath » Thu Nov 16, 2006 10:12 pm

Hotwired, one could just use a UV laser instead of a wire...
...not my idea, by the way.
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Unread postAuthor: FiveseveN » Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:38 am

You could use a single wire, the voltage difference being to ground. Plus, it's been done before. I believe Survival Research Labs had one of these things, using capacitor discharge and a thin copper wire. It had a range of a couple of feet.
I think I've heard the UV laser idea before. If you combine the power the laser needs with the power the HV generator needs, it doesn't add up to a very efficient weapon. A rail gun, for example, with the same power, would definitely outperform it.
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Unread postAuthor: boilingleadbath » Fri Nov 17, 2006 4:35 pm

Railguns are what, 30% efficient? And that's at a few thousand volts.

While it's true that high collominity UV lasers are much worse, they arn't the priciable means of damage - so I don't know how much that matters.
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Unread postAuthor: Hotwired » Sat Nov 18, 2006 4:36 am

Railguns are incredibly dodgy.

The rails get so trashed after each high powered shot they need to be serviced after each shot. Thats serviced as in remachined.

So one shot per week? :roll:
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Unread postAuthor: CpTn_lAw » Sat Dec 30, 2006 5:54 pm

no, actuelly, such an energy spudgun could be possible...at least, i think.
The whole problem doesn't reside in the fact of turing gaz into plasma, it is in the fact of containing this gaz in a pocket while maintaining the plasma state. you would need a hyper conductive material, hollow shell, with high concentration of the gaz in it, and then turn the gaz into plasma. thr shell would be brittle though, the fracture on impact and release the plamsified gaz.
turning gaz into plasma takes a few kV. Though you need high current.
the power genertion could be provided by a plasma lamp transformator.
after that, my physics ain't rich enough to permit to continue the searching.
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Unread postAuthor: mark.f » Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:44 pm

FiveseveN wrote:Be sure to let us know when you invent cold fusion.

No, don't let them know!!! Tell me! I'll make sure you get .05% credit. 8)

And besides, everybody knows to get cold fusion you have to get the hydrogen drunk and then put under high pressure in an atmosphere of vaporized KY jelly.

EDIT - I did not just say that...
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Unread postAuthor: Bluetooth » Sat Dec 30, 2006 8:44 pm

You probably wish you didn't :lol: . Now you can't delete it, only a mod can.
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Unread postAuthor: frankrede » Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:32 pm

Uranium!
Im going to order some!

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