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bonide stump remover = potassium nitrate?

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bonide stump remover = potassium nitrate?

Unread postAuthor: pyromanic13 » Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:05 pm

ok, the only stump remover at my local hardware store is "bonide stum..."

There is no indication of what it's made out of, and I was wondering if you guys have used this as potassium nitrate?

I already have checked google with no luck.
-thanks

p.s does anyone know where I can get sulfer from? (drugstore, hardware store, ect)
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Unread postAuthor: noname » Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:37 pm

Buy some, take it out, powder it, and burn it. If it's any good, use it anyway. It probably is, you need to experiment.
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Unread postAuthor: SpudBlaster15 » Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:12 pm

Will 36 grams dissolve in water at room temperature?(I am assuming you have a scale, if you dont, then you cannot use the KNO3 anyway)
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Unread postAuthor: boilingleadbath » Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:19 pm

No.
Bonide stump remover is, IIRC, sodium pyrosulfite.
Fairly boring stuff, as far as I can tell.

...although, from reading the directions, it sounds more effective than the nitrate stuff...
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Unread postAuthor: runningawaypyro » Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:49 am

hmm...Grants stump remover found at homedepot is the kno3 you want and you can get sulfer at lowes hardeware in the gardening department. and it you do get grants its best to disolve it down in water then recrystalize it in a aluminum pan over low outdoor heat for purer kno3 due to a coating they put on the pellets but its so much easier to just get it of ebay. Becasue its all ready in a sealed moisturless environment makeing no clumping.

Just out of curiousity how do plastic cannons and kno3 intervine? unless you plan on makieing a smoke charge to launch or make bp with the kno3 to power a bp cannon.
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Unread postAuthor: killagorrila99 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:01 am

And you can get charcoal from burning stuff :D
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Unread postAuthor: Hotwired » Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:12 am

runningawaypyro wrote:Just out of curiousity how do plastic cannons and kno3 intervine? unless you plan on makieing a smoke charge to launch or make bp with the kno3 to power a bp cannon.


A black powder powered PVC cannon?

*Fire in the hole!*

I think its in the off topic bit just for checking suppliers so he can make black powder at all.
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Unread postAuthor: Recruit » Mon Nov 20, 2006 7:46 am

killagorrila99 wrote:And you can get charcoal from burning stuff :D

Yes that he can but charcoal from that is no where near as good as scourched wood. I believe its hard wood makes ash (tons of it) and soft wood makes charcoal.
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Unread postAuthor: SpudBlaster15 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:15 pm

"Burning stuff" will produce extremely poor pyrotechnic charcoal. In order to produce decent charcoal for use in the making of BP, you must heat a soft, low density wood in the absence of oxygen. It is suggested that you make a charcoal briquette fired retort, complete with a temp guage to ensure that the temperature is between 500 and 550 degrees F. Suggested woods are Red or Black alder, weeping, pacific or black willow, white pine, and spruce.
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Unread postAuthor: MisterSteve124 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:27 pm

Home Depot sells Sulfur!? I have been looking for it lol. O and you can get potassium nirtate from CVS. Just ask them to order you some salt peter and they will get it to you within a week.
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Unread postAuthor: pyromanic13 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 9:06 pm

^ I'm 14, still think they'll order it?
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Unread postAuthor: runningawaypyro » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:35 pm

hey man i just turned 15 and iv been makeing my own bp, simple shells, simple cannons, and high explosives since i was 13 so dont use that as an excuse. you really need to let us know what you want this for, for more help and do some more research! you should check out the Ameurtue pyrotechnics and chemistry forum. Great Site!!
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Unread postAuthor: pyromanic13 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:43 pm

haha I know it's not an excuse, but I think CVS would use it as one not to buy it for me!

I'm actually not sure what I want this for just yet..
and I'll def check out that site.
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Unread postAuthor: pyromanic13 » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:46 pm

Bc If I sent you a money order would you send me 3 pounds worth?
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Unread postAuthor: MisterSteve124 » Tue Nov 21, 2006 8:45 pm

no CVS would get you salt peter just don't call it potassium nitrate. Calling it potassium nitrate just makes it seem more like a chemical. It is also use for medicinal purposes so they would probably order it for you. If they have any questions just say its for a school project. Just ask the pharamacy for it. But is it true that home depot really sells sulfur and does anyone know if it would be good enough to use for bp?
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