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Unread postAuthor: Bluetooth » Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:33 pm

I hate rap too. I like rock, classic rock, some heavier rock like CKY and a bunch of other stuff.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:28 pm

judgment_arms wrote:
MrCrowley wrote:Hey how about instead of arguing over evolution lets join the two....... Evolution happened when God was around but he didnt do f*ck all,
Who ever was talking about the chikensaurus maybe if the earth was slightly different there was a chickensaurus, its all just chance and veriables, if the big bang happened one year before alot you be different.
I mean how can you believe something that has no proof of existing against something that has evidence of it being real everywhere you go.
Earth and humans havnt always been like this you know, God didnt just create us all and plonk us here on earth. If he is human how does he exist and evolve all the animals when no other humans were alive? How does e live for ever? How did he know what to make and what not to make when there was only atoms and particles in the air,its not like one day he thought "Oh maybe ill try making dinosaurs today"


Do you possible expect me to believe that the entire universe was created by pure coincidence?!?! What do you think I am RETARDED?!?! Were did all the stuff that formed the big bang come from, and don’t tell me the big bang, or blame it on 9/11!?! Come on! How far up your butt is your HEAD!?! I’ve bean told be so called “scientists” that the chicken “evolved” from the tyrannosaurs rex, so by chickanosurs rex I was referring to the “missing link” between the t-rex and the chicken that I eat for supper a few days ago. God isn’t human were you got that idea only He knows. Unless you got confused, which judging by most every thing you said you probably did. I’ll attempted to educate you, in the beginning was God, bean there from the start heck he is the start, he made the whole universe including earth, and it was good, then man sinned and became a fallen race and was doomed, doomed to an eternity in HELL, BUT God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, Jesus, to DIE for are sins so that WE may LIVE! Now Jesus was the son of man, but he’s also God in the flesh, part of the holy trinity, Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost, the three are one.
So a recap:
God made every thing, the earth (the place we live), petroleum (which is used to make PVC, which is used to make spudguns), oh and he made YOU (you, the thing sitting at the computer, thinking I’m a nut, and wishing you had tacos.). Then MAN (gods creation, you, me, the whole blame world.) disobeyed God and sinned (eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil) there by, for lack of a better term, damning themselves. Then God sent his only son (Jesus) to DIE for are sins, giving us eternal life (un-damn us), if we chose to believe in him (Jesus). And what do we do to repay him!?! We chose to disregard him claming “I haven’t seen him so there for he doesn’t exist” and instead we believe the theory of a man (quite possibly a drunkard.) that says we all came for SLIME!!!!!!! Tell me have you seen any living thing “evolve”? I know I haven’t! So if I go off the same theory that “God doesn’t exist because I have seen him” than evolution must not exist ether.
Now then give me one good reason why I should believe in evolution! Where’s all YOUR facts!?! If anything man is DE-evolving! We are becoming more like savage beasts every second!!! And I challenge any of you which believe in evolution to tell me where it all began, WHAT MADE THE BIG BANG??????

Now then, just so everybody knows, I’m not trying to force my religion on anybody, I’m just doing what MY God told me to do “spread the good news”.



According to the big bang, the universe was created sometime between 10 billion and 20 billion years ago from a cosmic explosion that hurled matter and in all directions.

Thats what made it.
This explains the 'missing link':
Supposed "missing links" between distinct kinds of animals which can be extrapolated as transitions between kinds. For example, Archaeopteryx is thought to be a transition between reptiles and birds. (crit) There are no unambiguous transitional fossils. Archaeopteryx was thought to be a transition between reptile and bird because of its teeth and the claws on its wings. The fact is some fossil birds had teeth, and some didn't. Some reptiles have teeth, and some don't. Some mammals have teeth, and some don't. As far as claws on its wings, there are birds living today that have claws on their wings. Nevertheless, they are obviously birds, and no one disputes this. Besides, superficial similarities do not imply genetic relationship. "There is not one such fossil for which one could make a watertight argument. The reason is that statements about ancestry and descent are not applicable in the fossil record." - Colin Patterson, Senior Paleontologist at the British Museum of Natural History and editor of a prestigious scientific journal. Patterson is a well-known expert having an intimate knowledge of the fossil record. (Reference: Colin Patterson, personal communication. Luther Sunderland, "Darwin's Enigma," 1988, p. 89.)


How did god know what to create? How was god born or what ever, how did he come to be? What does he look like? Where does he live? Has anyone seen him? Is there evidence of him existing? How tall is he? What sports does he like? considering that he invented them. Whats his favourite food? How did he make everything? How did he know what to make? Did he know that 2000 years later man would have cities and cars and planes and trains? Or did he make them too but just made it look like man invented them? and last question......How? How did he do it all,how did he make life? Oh and what god is real? The aztec god? Or is he chinese? If not do their Gods exist? Are they Gods brothers? Do they have magical powers too?

Oh and I dont like tacos btw
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Unread postAuthor: beebs111 » Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:27 pm

all this talk about religion has gotten my "ball" rolling .(if you know what i mean) and i cna honestly say that i have no clue what happened. BUT, i would like to throw something out there. i am not arrogant enough to say THERE IS NO GOD, nor do i believe that god created man, and man has lived with the dinosaurs since the beginging of the earth. there is strong scientific proof that the earth was created in the way scientists say it was, but who is to say that that doesnt have something to do with god? Honestly, what are the chances that this earth would have worked out as perfectly as it did? 1 in a million, 1 in a billion? probably 1 in so many trillions, it isn't even possible to count that high. i am not a very religous person, i dont go to church, but it so impossibly hard to believe that everything happened by pure chance. everyone, just set what you already believe aside for one second and listen to me, jsut for the 3 minutes that it takes to read this post. it has basiclly been proven that we evolved from monkeys, but dont you think it's possible that it was god who planned that out. instead of just poofing the earth into existince, he lined up some particles of dust just so, so that the universe was created? and instead of creating humans at the beginnig of time to live with the dinosaurs, he set the world up so that apes would have to evolve into humans at some point? and god is just watching from above, every once in awhile creating miracles, but not mandating what we do for every second of our lives? maybe, when your child is sick, god doesnt want you to kneel by their bedside and pray, but he was influencing the man who discovered penicillin, and he ment us to discover ways to cure diseases?
just consider this point of view when you are preachig about a half chicken-half dinosaur, and how the world was created by a speck of dust by pure pure chance
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Sat Jan 06, 2007 4:32 pm

Fair enough, But when there is proof of him i'll belive him
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Unread postAuthor: frankrede » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:06 pm

You can not deny science.
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Unread postAuthor: frankrede » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:21 pm

judgment_arms wrote:
MrCrowley wrote:Hey how about instead of arguing over evolution lets join the two....... Evolution happened when God was around but he didnt do f*ck all,
Who ever was talking about the chikensaurus maybe if the earth was slightly different there was a chickensaurus, its all just chance and veriables, if the big bang happened one year before alot you be different.
I mean how can you believe something that has no proof of existing against something that has evidence of it being real everywhere you go.
Earth and humans havnt always been like this you know, God didnt just create us all and plonk us here on earth. If he is human how does he exist and evolve all the animals when no other humans were alive? How does e live for ever? How did he know what to make and what not to make when there was only atoms and particles in the air,its not like one day he thought "Oh maybe ill try making dinosaurs today"


Do you possible expect me to believe that the entire universe was created by pure coincidence?!?! What do you think I am RETARDED?!?! Were did all the stuff that formed the big bang come from, and don’t tell me the big bang, or blame it on 9/11!?! Come on! How far up your butt is your HEAD!?! I’ve bean told be so called “scientists” that the chicken “evolved” from the tyrannosaurs rex, so by chickanosurs rex I was referring to the “missing link” between the t-rex and the chicken that I eat for supper a few days ago. God isn’t human were you got that idea only He knows. Unless you got confused, which judging by most every thing you said you probably did. I’ll attempted to educate you, in the beginning was God, bean there from the start heck he is the start, he made the whole universe including earth, and it was good, then man sinned and became a fallen race and was doomed, doomed to an eternity in HELL, BUT God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, Jesus, to DIE for are sins so that WE may LIVE! Now Jesus was the son of man, but he’s also God in the flesh, part of the holy trinity, Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost, the three are one.
So a recap:
God made every thing, the earth (the place we live), petroleum (which is used to make PVC, which is used to make spudguns), oh and he made YOU (you, the thing sitting at the computer, thinking I’m a nut, and wishing you had tacos.). Then MAN (gods creation, you, me, the whole blame world.) disobeyed God and sinned (eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil) there by, for lack of a better term, damning themselves. Then God sent his only son (Jesus) to DIE for are sins, giving us eternal life (un-damn us), if we chose to believe in him (Jesus). And what do we do to repay him!?! We chose to disregard him claming “I haven’t seen him so there for he doesn’t exist” and instead we believe the theory of a man (quite possibly a drunkard.) that says we all came for SLIME!!!!!!! Tell me have you seen any living thing “evolve”? I know I haven’t! So if I go off the same theory that “God doesn’t exist because I have seen him” than evolution must not exist ether.
Now then give me one good reason why I should believe in evolution! Where’s all YOUR facts!?! If anything man is DE-evolving! We are becoming more like savage beasts every second!!! And I challenge any of you which believe in evolution to tell me where it all began, WHAT MADE THE BIG BANG??????

Now then, just so everybody knows, I’m not trying to force my religion on anybody, I’m just doing what MY God told me to do “spread the good news”.
You are full of bs.The Big Bang was caused by a super dense piece of matter that became to unstavle and exploded. It was formed from a super massive blackhole from the previous universe that eventula consumed everything and is in a neverending cycle. The universe will retract and expand forever. Luckily we are on the expanding part of the time line. For someone who doesn't believ something like evolution could ahppen how the hell could you possibly believ that one almight being created evryting out of nothing? Tell me where is your logic? People are not de-evolving, we are weaker than than are predeccesors but so are many other animals. Humans are animals but do not act like animals. Even "savage" humans can have basic reasoning that animals are not capable of. Evolution is happening and there is proof, and there is lots of things that support the big bang. Your ignoring the evidence for your own religous benefit. There is no proof for the existence of a god and there never will be, thats how it is. I find your dependence on faith disturbing.
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Unread postAuthor: beebs111 » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:34 pm

no and i am not denying science at all, in fact i believe in all of the theroies and such that are put forth, i just find it hard to believe that everything happened by pure chance. i do no tactually believe that god is some guy that lives up in the clouds, but more like the force that exists which makes miracles happen.
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Unread postAuthor: pyromanic13 » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:35 pm

beebs111 wrote:all this talk about religion has gotten my "ball" rolling .(if you know what i mean) and i cna honestly say that i have no clue what happened. BUT, i would like to throw something out there. i am not arrogant enough to say THERE IS NO GOD, nor do i believe that god created man, and man has lived with the dinosaurs since the beginging of the earth. there is strong scientific proof that the earth was created in the way scientists say it was, but who is to say that that doesnt have something to do with god? Honestly, what are the chances that this earth would have worked out as perfectly as it did? 1 in a million, 1 in a billion? probably 1 in so many trillions, it isn't even possible to count that high. i am not a very religous person, i dont go to church, but it so impossibly hard to believe that everything happened by pure chance. everyone, just set what you already believe aside for one second and listen to me, jsut for the 3 minutes that it takes to read this post. it has basiclly been proven that we evolved from monkeys, but dont you think it's possible that it was god who planned that out. instead of just poofing the earth into existince, he lined up some particles of dust just so, so that the universe was created? and instead of creating humans at the beginnig of time to live with the dinosaurs, he set the world up so that apes would have to evolve into humans at some point? and god is just watching from above, every once in awhile creating miracles, but not mandating what we do for every second of our lives? maybe, when your child is sick, god doesnt want you to kneel by their bedside and pray, but he was influencing the man who discovered penicillin, and he ment us to discover ways to cure diseases?
just consider this point of view when you are preachig about a half chicken-half dinosaur, and how the world was created by a speck of dust by pure pure chance


not by pure chance by trial and error...that is the extreame silmpilaction of evolution.

look, god is a leap of faith, religion is based on ilogical grounds. science is a leap of proof, based on logical grounds.

remember in geometery..where we learned to do proofs until there is a contradiction (I forget the exact name)? start with the theory that god does NOT exist and logicaly prove step by step that he exists.

and come on, quit with that freakin bullshit that god created everything! did god create himself!

I'm sorry pimpmann you just transport the last couple posts to another thread, please?
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Unread postAuthor: pyromanic13 » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:38 pm

beebs111 wrote:no and i am not denying science at all, in fact i believe in all of the theroies and such that are put forth, i just find it hard to believe that everything happened by pure chance. i do no tactually believe that god is some guy that lives up in the clouds, but more like the force that exists which makes miracles happen.


do you really believe that if investigated, all miracles can't be explained? past peoples probebly believed fire was something sent by god..

as soon as someone gives solid proof that a god exists I will believe them
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Unread postAuthor: medievalman » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:59 pm

I believe that Pimpmann22 has already kindly suggested a helt to all religious posts.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:21 pm

this isnt religous, its SCIENCE :lol:


sounds like some cheesy thing Adam Savage would say of MythBusters
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Unread postAuthor: Bluetooth » Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:22 pm

A very long time ago he did that and yet you keep talking about it. Just stop! You've even been told by a mod.
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Unread postAuthor: Kobl » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:39 pm

Ahem

[/url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-theory[url]

Thats right. You just got sevred jesus humper.
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Unread postAuthor: beebs111 » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:39 pm

wel im an asshole. im not saying that miracles can't be priven scientificly, or that god even exists, im just saying that it is very hard to believe that those things, or the creation of the world happened by pure chance. i do not support the theroy that there is some old guy that lives up in the clouds that one day decided to poof himself a bunch of people and an earth, that is asinine. and im not saying that god can be proven, or that there is any evidence of god existing. i cna not stress that i DO NOT believe in creationilisim, i believe in evoloution, but it is such an abscure chance that everything worked out so perfectly. i dont like the idea of the bible, or church, or worshipping a god, but i think that there could be something out there, and it is so hard to believe that everything happened by chance. i guess that is the best way to word it, sort of a half religious, god had influence on evoloution point of view
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Unread postAuthor: Kobl » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:42 pm

Well buddy, the universe is kinda infinite. So go stick a fork up your ass! I mean... With some much crap out there most of it being dark matter, chances are a little piece of crap planet like this will "happen."

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