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Unread postAuthor: Jumpin Jehosaphat » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:09 pm

Oh! I get it, you want to throw smoke grenades in a paintball game. Lol when you said you wanted to use it for painball I thought you meant as a propellant for some stupid reason. My bad, sorry for getting on your case over nothing. :oops:
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Unread postAuthor: paaiyan » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:14 pm

It's all good man. Yea there's no way I'm putting anything on fire in my gun. Besides, If I wanted to use it as a solid propellant, I wouldn't. I could just make some good flash powder for that, but that's against the rulesez. Yea I want smokescreen, last time I played I ended up having to dive over a bush and pull a tuck-and-roll to get to better cover, if I could chuck a small smokescreen, then I could get away easier.
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Unread postAuthor: )DEMON( » Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:08 am

paaiyan wrote:The only thing I have yet to figure out, is how to make it burn faster. I've considered using them for paintball, but they burn too slowly. I wonder, if you powdered the stuff after you melted it together, would it burn much quicker?


You know that might just work. They do that with gunpowder to make it burn faster. Maybe if you added an oxidizer, somehow....

Are you sure this stuff is ok to breath? I have heard it is pretty nasty, maybe it isn't a good idea to inhale chemicals like that.
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Unread postAuthor: frankrede » Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:54 am

Potassium nitrate is the oxidizer demon.
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Unread postAuthor: )DEMON( » Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:59 am

:oops: :P

I knew that.

Just thinking more oxidizer=faster burning, my bad. Maybe if you used a different oxidizer instead of potassium nitrate.
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Unread postAuthor: paaiyan » Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:07 pm

Besides, the stuff I foudn in that video link I posted burns crazy fast and produces huge amounts of smoke, I'm making that stuff.
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Unread postAuthor: Modderxtrordanare » Sun Jul 08, 2007 5:41 pm

By altering the ratio between KNO3 and sugar, you can achieve either faster burn time or more smoke.
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Unread postAuthor: )DEMON( » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:16 pm

I am guessing that the amount of smock will vary between mixtures? Surely it can't stay constant.
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Unread postAuthor: spudbud101 » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:46 pm

More Potassium Nitrate = Faster Burn Time = Less Smoke
More Sugar = Slower Burn Time = More Smoke

A 60g to 40g mix is the usual.
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Unread postAuthor: Modderxtrordanare » Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:53 pm

Correct, so a 50-50 mix would lessen the burning speed and increase the smoke content as well.

That's what I usually do, a 50-50 mix, or a 65-35 mix.
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Unread postAuthor: pyromanic13 » Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:19 pm

I made a 6" by 6" smoke bomb, literally couldn't see my entire neighborhood. used gasoline as a fuse.
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Unread postAuthor: Brooner115 » Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:22 pm

cant u just use salt puter and sugar or is kno3 salt puter?
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Unread postAuthor: paaiyan » Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:18 pm

Modderxtrordanare wrote:By altering the ratio between KNO3 and sugar, you can achieve either faster burn time or more smoke.


Yea, but by making the stuff in the video, I can make it burn fast, _and_ make a lot of smoke.

EDIT: And yes, KNO3 is saltpeter
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Unread postAuthor: Marco321 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:42 am

I knew that before. Its just very hard to get KNO3 in Aus since its an important part of gunpowder and a powerful oxidiser.
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