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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:19 pm

Ok im looking for a budget hunting scope, now I want something that works alright for its price($30NZD), I know I'll get what I pay for and at the price im looking at, the scopes will be pretty crap quality so don't tell me to save and buy a proper better one because I just want something budget, its really more for looks on the next pneumatic I'm building. So in other words whats the better scope out of these three...

I've narrowed it down to three scopes:

NcStar 4x20 Scope:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunting ... 869799.htm

Deer Field 4x32 Scope:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunting ... 051601.htm

Nikko Stirling 4x20 rifle airgun scope
The auction is closed but will get relisted soon so for now:
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* 15mm matte black alloy body tube
* Fine crosshair reticle
* Coated lenses
* 1/4" MOA adjustments
* Eye Relief: 4.0" / 100mm
* Tube Diameter: 15mm
* Length: 11.5" / 270mm
* Weight: 105g
* Windage & elevation adjustable
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Unread postAuthor: mark0491 » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:29 pm

Hey go to walmart and buy a daisy scope for a 22 or bbgun thier 24 $$$ and like 8 x

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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:34 pm

Yeah the thing is we don't have walmart in NZ, they haven't taken over the world just yet.

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Unread postAuthor: pyrogeek » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:03 am

If it's just for looks, buy the cheapest one you can. If you want to actually use it, then look at scopes and find one that has a decent field of view. The uber cheap one that came on my BB rifle was utter garbage and was difficult to find the target with. Even the cheap $16 BSA one I bought worked so much better.

For mounts, try making a dovetail out of PVC and gluing it on. That would look so much nicer than the hose clamps most people around here use.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:06 am

So out of those three which one would you recommend?

The NcStar one has a Field of View @ 100 Yards(feet): 26.2

The others don't say
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Unread postAuthor: Thursto » Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:07 am

Well i like the first o link http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunting ... 869799.htm it looks allright, and i think it would work fairly well also.
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Unread postAuthor: mark.f » Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:58 am

I would recommend the one with the largest objective lens. They pick up more light, which makes night or twilight shooting and actual possibility, depending on the conditions.

If you can find a 40mm scope for that price, I'd definitely choose that. :evil: I can see pretty well at night with the one I've got, and pretty much when there's any kind of moon out.

I would also get one with listed MOA adjustments. This will make sighting in much easier. Just fire three sighter shots, measure distance from bullseye both vertically and horizontally. Calculate clicks by (distance to move POI)/(MOA adj. * range expressed in football fields), and you're there!

As for mounting, you could get either an 11mm scope rail or a skinnier one, (for airgun scopes), and mount it to your gun using #6-32 machine screws. Most gun scope mounts are attached in exactly this method, though using calipers to get the rail exactly centered and aligned with the bore axis. I would recommend B-Square, but I don't know how the price stands up with your budget.

If you are looking for an overall good scope, I would recommend a Daisy Powerline 3-9x variable zoom, 32mm obj. lens scope. I've got one sitting on my desk right now because of a problem with it's mounts, but that's my fault and not it's. I installed it on an old gun with misaligned rails and I had to flip them around and bend them to get the scope along the bore's axis.

For spudgunning, I wouldn't look too much for accuracy unless you're using some sort of dart. Then, it'd be good to have a scope with some sort of Mil-reference in it, for on-the-fly drop adjustments, since projectile drop is a big factor in spudgunning. But that's probably way outside the price range you're looking at.

Just use the scopes dials to adjust for range if you have to, but just make sure the scope can hold a zero and clicks are accurate. You can do this with a simple test. Zero the rifle, then move the scope 10 clicks up, fire a shot, 10 clicks right, fire a shot, 10 clicks back down, fire a shot, and then 10 clicks back to the left, and fire. You should wind up dead center where you were originally zeroed.


Sheesh... that was long. Hope it helped!
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Tue Jul 17, 2007 9:46 am

they're all crap :)

I would get the 4x32 one, especially if it comes complete with mounts. (<--- edit: I notice it doesn't, which means you need a bigger budget, unless you plan on epoxying it directly to your launcher ;) ) You'll get a better sight picture and the shape is more... well, scope-like and attractive.
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Re: Hunting Scope Budget

Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:50 pm

MrCrowley wrote:Ok im looking for a budget hunting scope, now I want something that works alright for its price($30NZD), I know I'll get what I pay for and at the price im looking at, the scopes will be pretty crap quality so don't tell me to save and buy a proper better one because I just want something budget, its really more for looks on the next pneumatic I'm building. So in other words whats the better scope out of


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Yeah that helps alot thanks Mark.

If I play my cards right I may be able to get this one for $40NZD($30US)
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Or this one:
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But im sure people will kee bidding so the price will go up but I might get lucky.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:04 pm

consider the cost of mounts, they're not cheap.

Also, look at it this way - you can fit a scope to practically anything you build, so better to have one good one you can switch round launchers than many crap ones on each of your projects.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:44 pm

Well I could get something like this which is probably all that is need considering a scope is never going to properly work on a spudgun anyway:
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Magnification 1X
Finish Black Matte
Len Coating Ruby
Length Inches 4.73"
Wt. Ounce 2.65oz
Retical Red Dot
Ring Mount Yes

Specification:

1. 22/air gun red dot.
2. Matt black finish with gold lettering.
3. The surface of all the optical spare is plated with anti-reflection coating.
4. Fits all air guns & 22/air gun firearms with 3/8 dovetail
5. Reticle: Red dot
6. Great for Paintball Guns as well.

It's only $20, looks alright and considering im not going to hit what ever im aiming at with a scope it will give a general idea where i'm aiming.
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Unread postAuthor: chaos » Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:01 pm

Yer go the red dot reflex sight, for spudguns anyways... i can hit shi... at 30m with sinkers with my red-dot scope, there probably all you would want for a smoothbore unless you have super accurate darts :D
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:01 pm

Yeah or 4,000PSI, a bullet and a rifled barrel.
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Unread postAuthor: mtronic » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:50 pm

how do you hold your cannon? shoulder fired? I have considered a scope but there is know real point apart from asthetics. If this is the case i would go with the red dot scope as its cheap. It has always looked good on compact tacticle wepons. If it breaks then its not a really big deal.

I will be mounting this on my combustion because its hip fired I need to see where I'm generally aiming :lol:

I got these with my hunting scope from my local gun shop, u might be able to get a combo like this off ebay for like $40 AUD?
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