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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:38 pm

Ragnarok wrote:Not in the slightest - more the opposite.
You could easily build much more powerful things, but you don't. Hence, you're (probably) not the kind of power fiend they should be looking to appeal to.

Ok, just clearing it up. Thanks.
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Unread postAuthor: Lockednloaded » Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:54 pm

Rag, you keep referring to people who want to build hybrids like they are not part of the community, but more like outcast who have to draw power hungry maniacs away from actual spudding.

And on topic,
I see I missed that, but it looks like you still need higher fill flow for decent ROF
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Unread postAuthor: Technician1002 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:04 pm

He was throttling the fill rate with the small ball valve. I think he was trying to reduce the amount of air lost while the piston and sprinkler valve recovered.

Without a ball valve, the Marshmallow Cannon has a good ROF. It does not take long to re-close it after a shot. My little compressor simply does not keep up.
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:06 pm

Lockednloaded wrote:Rag, you keep referring to people who want to build hybrids like they are not part of the community, but more like outcast who have to draw power hungry maniacs away from actual spudding.

In his defence, SOME PEOPLE tend to think that anybody who doesn't have a hybrid is inferior and that they need to build one and it is very obvious. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE and seriously, tone it down....
And on topic,
I see I missed that, but it looks like you still need higher fill flow for decent ROF

The ball valve wasn't opened all the way, but I think it can fill fast enough for a shot every second, which is fine. You have to aim after each shot so a faster ROF is not nessecary.
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:08 pm

Technician1002 wrote:He was throttling the fill rate with the small ball valve. I think he was trying to reduce the amount of air lost while the piston and sprinkler valve recovered.

You nailed it. Plus, I wasn't testing how fast of an ROF I could get. Maybe I'll do that tomorrow.
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Unread postAuthor: SpudBlaster15 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:19 pm

Gun Freak wrote:In his defence, SOME PEOPLE tend to think that anybody who doesn't have a hybrid is inferior and that they need to build one and it is very obvious. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE and seriously, tone it down...


I don't think they know who they are, care to elaborate?
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:28 pm

@Lockednloaded: Yes, exactly. I was also told something about the general size of the anatomy of hybrid fetishists, but the pink elephant is looking at me very threateningly, so I think I'd better not repeat it.

More seriously, I don't see why you feel that you need to peddle hybrids. The kind of people you're telling are fully aware of the power potential and can decide if they're interested on their own - so the endless parroting of hybrid supremacy is only going to annoy people.

Also, what else am I supposed to think of your "recruitment methods" when your weapon of choice is popping up in the thread of a launcher that really doesn't need hybridisation?
If you're going to make suggestions for improvements, make them relevant to what the launcher is trying to do.
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Unread postAuthor: velocity3x » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:57 pm

Lockednloaded wrote: for even more compactness, power, and straight up cool factor a hybrid is the only way to go from here.


The only way to go from here?

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Unread postAuthor: Lockednloaded » Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:57 pm

I've made many relevant comments, and this may be the very first time I have ever made a comment about hybrids to another member who is not interested at the time. You can't make an entire generalization about someone based on a harmless suggestion.

I only suggest this because GF has built an array of pneumatics and has access to proper hybrid building materials.

And on topic:
Sorry, I see what you were doing with the valve now. Maybe a gauge needs to be installed to show when maximum pressure is reached so shots are consistent
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Unread postAuthor: velocity3x » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:07 pm

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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:24 pm

Lockednloaded wrote:This may be the very first time I have ever made a comment about hybrids to another member who is not interested at the time.

Maybe, but I've seen hybrid pedlars all over the place, and reading a recycled "pneumatic dead end" speech or its equivalent for the eleventeenth time does get a mite wearing.
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Unread postAuthor: SpudBlaster15 » Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:28 pm

Ragnarok wrote:...and reading a recycled "pneumatic dead end" speech or its equivalent for the eleventeenth time does get a mite wearing.


That's only because it's painful for pneumatic enthusiasts such as yourself to admit the validity of such statements. :lol:
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Unread postAuthor: Lockednloaded » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:11 pm

Ragnarok wrote:Also, what else am I supposed to think of your "recruitment methods" when your weapon of choice is popping up in the thread of a launcher that really doesn't need hybridisation?


Hypocritical much? So many of your posts on others cannons directly link to HEAL, and how awesome it is. I don't think you need to be lecturing me about ONE playful suggestion.

Ragnarok wrote: More seriously, I don't see why you feel that you need to peddle hybrids. The kind of people you're telling are fully aware of the power potential and can decide if they're interested on their own - so the endless parroting of hybrid supremacy is only going to annoy people.


It's not like I'm spamming the site telling people "BUILD A HYBRID NOOB" on every thread, and I am sure not bragging about my hybrid, so what makes a simple suggestion so bad? Its a community where people are free to express their own opinions, and if you think that makes me some sort of "Supremacist", then you really don't have much of a place here
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Unread postAuthor: Technician1002 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:12 am

A general word to the wise.. Sorry for the off topic post.. Don't let this become a flame war and raise the wrath of the mods.. :roll:

The thread topic is 2 inch Piston Valve Golf ball gun. Hybrid discussion and their merits should be in the combustion section under hybrids.

Back on topic, The videos are great. Have you tried higher pressure? I like the idea of the 1/2 tennis ball. I may try one to see how well it holds up.

Do you think the force on the piston will become too strong for the bumper when the pressure is higher and a barrel and projectile is used?
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:12 pm

Lockednloaded wrote:Hypocritical much?
Not really. In the last year, go and count how many posts where I've mentioned HEAL for the basis of hyping it, rather than for any relevant purpose (perhaps as an example for the sake of discussion, say). The number is evidently less than you think it is.

Its a community where people are free to express their own opinions, and if you think that makes me some sort of "Supremacist", then you really don't have much of a place here.
And my opinion is that, while discussions of the merits of hybrids are all well and good, they should be at least a little more relevant to the discussion at hand.

Also, see "Hyperbole".

SpudBlaster15 wrote:That's only because it's painful for pneumatic enthusiasts such as yourself to admit the validity of such statements.
Why exactly? You might as well tell me that this is a hopeless dead end, with no chance of standing up to modern designs in practicality or performance - it won't stop me liking it.
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