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Unread postAuthor: wyz2285 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:36 pm

Well, my very first time machine a entire gun, so to all these pro machinists out there, please be nice, but critics are appreciated.
I bought a pack of .40 blowgun darts and a aluminium barrel a while ago because I liked a pneu dart gun, the JM. The price was more than 2000$ :lol: obviously I was not going to pay for that.
It looked simple, my guess it's just a 12g co2 receiver, regulator then a hammer valve. So I took a 5cm dia nylon bar and milled it to a block, then milled slots/drilled holes to make the receiver, valve seal and hammer housing.
The valves stem is made out off aluminium, very happy with it, air tight seal at any pressure. Hammer also aluminium.
Everything worked fine, a loud bang when I release the hammer... But then the fail came: the darts doesn't even leave the barrel :? :lol:
I had no idea how that happened, the only explication I could thing of is the hammer is too weak and it's not delivering enough air.
However, I'm too tired to find out why, this was just a warm up to build a serious PCP anyway. When I get more money, I'd probably buy some brass/ aluminum bars and blocks. Any tips about machine these materials would be appreciated, as I'm still trying to find out how to left a fine finish surface and slots.
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CpTn_lAw wrote::D "yay, me wanna make big multishot pnoob with 1000 psi foot pump compressor using diamond as main material. Do you think wet bread make good sealant? " :D
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:15 pm

Take out the hammer, drill it out and fill it with a steel dowel or a trimmed down bolt. Or just make a steel hammer...There is always a way. :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: wyz2285 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:31 pm

I've tried different hammers, springs. None worked. So carry on and I'll just leave it as a milestone on my airgun making history :lol: I mean anyway it's my entry in a totally different level...
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Wed Jul 31, 2013 5:41 pm

Why not put a smaller barrel on it? I'm sure it will work great for airsoft or 177 or 22 pellets... :) looks really good, regardless. Impressive.
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Unread postAuthor: wyz2285 » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:10 pm

Exactly my thought, the power is definitely enough to propel an airsoft bb, not a pellet though.
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Unread postAuthor: Lockednloaded » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:32 pm

Despite the performance flaws, that thing looks awesome!

I've actually been looking towards a similar project myself, but I was planning to just get a reciever milled to fit on my crosman 2240 that can accommodate darts
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Re: PCP dart gun (fail)

Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:46 pm

wyz2285 wrote:I had no idea how that happened, the only explication I could thing of is the hammer is too weak and it's not delivering enough air.


That sounds like the problem, too low dwell time. Pity.
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Unread postAuthor: Brian the brain » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:07 pm

Could you show the valvestem and seal and possibly the amount of travel it has?


I'd also like to know the thickness of the valvestem and the porting size.
Does the valvestemhead move into the elbow?
If it does I can imagine it's in the way of the flow..

I'm guessing increased flow along with dwell time might improove performance a lot.
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Oh my friggin god stop being so awesome, that thing is pure kick ass. Most innovative and creative pneumatic that the files have ever come by!

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Unread postAuthor: wyz2285 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 1:48 pm

The port size is 6.8mm...
The design is a standard hammer valve, I'm pretty sure not retarded version :lol:
What do you mean "Does the valvestemhead move into the elbow?"
Worked all day to get a decent wooden stock, now I'm all covered in dust and also suicidal just thinking about all the sanding I'll have to do tomorrow...
(BTW I made a barrel adapter, now I'm using a 6mm barrel, at least it shots something :lol:)
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Thu Aug 01, 2013 2:55 pm

Retarded version... That made me LOL :D

Looks good. I'm assuming a groove will be cut in the stock to let the block lay flush and the trigger stick out?
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Unread postAuthor: wyz2285 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:00 pm

Looks good. I'm assuming a groove will be cut in the stock to let the block lay flush and the trigger stick out?

At least that's the plan... Right now I don't know what I'm doing anymore :lol:
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:12 pm

That's how I always work :D no plan at all, I just wing it!! :P

I feel like this gun would look sick with a suppressor, and now that you know how to make them... ;)
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Unread postAuthor: wyz2285 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:21 pm

I feel like this gun would look sick with a suppressor, and now that you know how to make them... Wink

It's kind obvious I wouldn't left that skinny barrel hang out like that :)
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:36 pm

Good man! ;)
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Unread postAuthor: wyz2285 » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:42 am

Only missing a suppressor and proper paint,
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