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Post questions and info about pneumatic (compressed gas) powered cannons here. This includes discussion about valves, pipe types, compressors, alternate gas setups, and anything else relevant.
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Unread postAuthor: grumpy » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:06 pm

first this is not one of my launchers, but i would like to know if you have the same opinion of it that i have.
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Unread postAuthor: dewey-1 » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:23 pm

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Unread postAuthor: ShowNoMercy » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:25 pm

To big for the lousy performance it gives.
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Unread postAuthor: LikimysCrotchus5 » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:31 pm

As dewey said, dead space, bad valve, too big for the performance of the valve, reducers decrease performance and thats about the most i can see. Just dont know if its pressure rated.

Hey.....at least its painted :D
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Unread postAuthor: Novacastrian » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:33 pm

ShowNoMercy wrote:To big for the lousy performance it gives.

Are you privvy to the performance Shownomercy?

I tend to agree with dewey about the barrel supports, also the size ball valve used is too small, it would seriously choke the flow of air.

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Unread postAuthor: ShowNoMercy » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:35 pm

Ok ok sorry for the angry post, just got home from class, and I was angry. But a 3/4 inch ball valve to fire a large 2 inch chamber? Cmon.
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Unread postAuthor: grumpy » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:42 pm

the reason i asked for opinions is i'm not sure about the fittings, and this thing is for sale on one of the paintball forums i belong to.
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Unread postAuthor: Novacastrian » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:45 pm

grumpy wrote:the reason i asked for opinions is i'm not sure about the fittings, and this thing is for sale on one of the paintball forums i belong to.


You do much better work than that Grumpy, why would you even consider parting with hard earned for this particular piece?
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Unread postAuthor: potatoflinger » Wed Dec 05, 2007 8:59 pm

grumpy wrote:first this is not one of my launchers, but i would like to know if you have the same opinion of it that i have.

Well, did you ever say what your opinion was?
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:07 pm

Don't buy it. Not worth it. Just make your own, if you live in America, you'll have no problem making something decent for little cash.
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Unread postAuthor: grumpy » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:18 pm

no i did not say what my opinion was cause i wanted honest and unbiased opinions , but to me it looks like dwv fittings were used except for the reducer bushings. also i would question wether or not pressure rated pipe was used , and no i am not considering buying it but i wanted to make sure of what i thought i was seeing. and if not safe i would not want to see it sold to some kid that does not know any better and possibly hurting himself or others. i know i have on ocasion used a dwv fitting , but i'm the only one that uses my cannons , and would not sell them like that.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:43 pm

The end cap could be DWV because I haven't seen them so square like that, and the small elbows after the valve could be DWV because it looks like they have 'rings' around the socket joints, then again i'm not familiar with all American pipe.

Also in NZ, DWV fittings don't fit with Non-DWV fittings and/or pipe, so we don't get the mix of the two which makes it easier.
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Unread postAuthor: DYI » Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:52 pm

Looks like a terrible waste of money to me.
Problems:
-horribly constricted flow
-excessively large chamber (waster air)
-questionable fittings
-really slow valve
-bad accuracy due to shaking the gun when flipping the valve open
-huge dead space
-bend slows airflow as well as constricting it
-fill valve looks rather jury-rigged
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Unread postAuthor: bluerussetboy » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:56 pm

-fill valve looks rather jury-rigged

its just a long stem presta(mtb/road) valve with a shrader adapter
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Unread postAuthor: jimmy101 » Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:21 am

I wouldn't pay more than about 50¢ for that gun.

Like everybody said, not a very good design.

Serious chance of the gun ripping itself apart when firing a heavy round since the small diameter PVC parts are carrying all the recoil load from the barrel.

Fill the barrel with water and it is pretty much gauranteed that the gun'll destroy itself.
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