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Unread postAuthor: The Kid » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:35 am

Well my mum recently purchased a soda stream, for no familiar with a soda stream it makes soft drink and to carbonate the water c02 is used. I'm not sure if it could be used somehow to power a smaller pneumatic but thats not really the question. my question is about the cost when you trade and empty cylinder in its $7 and you get a full tank which is about 350 grams of c02 and i was wondering is this cheap about average or expensive.

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Unread postAuthor: octane89 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:46 am

If this helps, in paintball it cost me about $4 max to fill a 20oz tank.
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Unread postAuthor: grumpy » Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:25 am

it will depend on what country and even what state you live in, for a 20lb co2 tank i pay $11.36. i still use co2 on occasion but it is cheaper for me to use hpa as i fill my own tanks. oh yeah , co2 will power any size cannon you would care to use, be careful cause unregulated co2 can give pressures in excess of 800psi.
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Unread postAuthor: seudo411 » Fri Dec 07, 2007 11:41 am

I have two things to mention firstly if using co2 in the above mentioned form one would have to have a regulator setup to control the pressure it is also necessary to check if the threads on the bottle are the same as regular co2 tanks. secondly the huge price difference is as a result of quality, but co2 is co2 right, wrong the above mentioned co2 is food grade, the same as welding oxygen and medical oxygen.
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Unread postAuthor: grumpy » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:35 pm

seudo411 wrote:I have two things to mention firstly if using co2 in the above mentioned form one would have to have a regulator setup to control the pressure it is also necessary to check if the threads on the bottle are the same as regular co2 tanks. secondly the huge price difference is as a result of quality, but co2 is co2 right, wrong the above mentioned co2 is food grade, the same as welding oxygen and medical oxygen.


i did read his post and saw his picture, i knew exactly what it was and what it is used for.
not sure what form you are refering to, the question was asked wether or not it could be used in a cannon and the answer is yes it can, wether it is food grade or industrial it can be used. the other question was about cost. and i will stand by what i said . it does not matter wether it is food grade or industrial. prices will vary according to where you live.
alot of paintball markers use unregulated co2 and perform quite well, there are certain markers that you can modify to use liquid co2. and just in case you would like to know the bottles i use are for beer and fountain drink dispencers. the price i gave is to fill my food grade tanks with food grade co2,
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Unread postAuthor: The Kid » Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:05 pm

thanks guy for your help. the reason i thought of this is that i can't get paintball co2 in my area without a licence (i'm pretty shaw i need one). i guess the price is reasonable since its not goanna be a gun not shot for fun all day long, and seudo411 i know c02 needs a regulator setup and a pop off safety valve.
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Unread postAuthor: grumpy » Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:22 pm

i am not sure where you live, but if it is in the u.s then you do not need a
licence, but if under 18 yrs old you may need an adult to get it for you . it just depends on the particular bussiness. i know that wallmart and lowes both sell prefilled tanks. most paintball fields will fill a paintball tank without questions.
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Unread postAuthor: bob-a-lu » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:44 pm

depends what kind of co2 tank you have. go to a paintball shop and they can tell you
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Unread postAuthor: DYI » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:00 pm

Instead of paintball CO2, you could always use industrial CO2. I'm pretty sure that there isn't any age limit on that. Using food grade gas for a pneumatic launcher isn't particularly cost effective.
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Unread postAuthor: grumpy » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:20 pm

anyplace that fills paintball co2 tanks uses industrial grade co2. it is just some stores policy to not sell paintball equipment to minors. just like a lot of people use scuba tanks to refill their hpa paintball tanks, and some scuba shops will fill these scuba tanks with no problem, while other shops will not fill without a dive card , it just depends on the shop.
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Unread postAuthor: DYI » Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:26 pm

Yeah, but I mean using an industrial CO2 tank rather than a paintball one, and getting it filled at a compressed gas depot, not a painball place. I do the same thing with my nitrogen tank. Obviously paintball CO2 is industrial grade.
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Unread postAuthor: The Kid » Sat Dec 08, 2007 2:11 am

australia were not alowed to have paintball equitment sold to us. The thought of industrial c02 went through my mind but the only guy in town who sells it said he would only sell me air compresser fitting gauges ect. My parents woulden't buy it for me since they said they wanted no part of my spudguns.
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Unread postAuthor: BigGrib » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:12 am

co2 is co2 is co2, get yourself a 10 lb tank with a keg rugulator for yes i said it a beer keg setup ;) get it from your local beer distributor, and you can hook up your own hoses with hose clamps and barbed hose fitting and make your own setup. it's what i did and i can pressure my cannons up to 50 psi with my co2 setup, and if you want a regulator i can get you one from the states, it'd be a little expensive but it'd definatley be worth it.
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Unread postAuthor: The Kid » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:20 am

nah i could buy a regulater here from bunnings for about $120 mabey cheaper at the engenering shop
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Unread postAuthor: seudo411 » Sat Dec 08, 2007 5:25 pm

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seudo411 wrote:I have two things to mention firstly if using co2 in the above mentioned form one would have to have a regulator setup to control the pressure it is also necessary to check if the threads on the bottle are the same as regular co2 tanks. secondly the huge price difference is as a result of quality, but co2 is co2 right, wrong the above mentioned co2 is food grade, the same as welding oxygen and medical oxygen.


i did read his post and saw his picture, i knew exactly what it was and what it is used for.
not sure what form you are refering to, the question was asked wether or not it could be used in a cannon and the answer is yes it can, wether it is food grade or industrial it can be used. the other question was about cost. and i will stand by what i said . it does not matter wether it is food grade or industrial. prices will vary according to where you live.
alot of paintball markers use unregulated co2 and perform quite well, there are certain markers that you can modify to use liquid co2. and just in case you would like to know the bottles i use are for beer and fountain drink dispencers. the price i gave is to fill my food grade tanks with food grade co2,


Thats interesting because I live in South Africa and and the most expensive co2 is food grade, then co2 supplied by the welding shop which coincidently includes delivery :D as for legal issues all the welding shop asked me was is it for catering purposes or industrial use and then where would i like it delivered, but hey thats just my lovely country.
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