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Unread postAuthor: taytayswims » Tue May 27, 2008 5:08 pm

last weekend was my birthday so with the money i got i want to make a pneumatic cannon with a sprinkler valve

now i have one question when it comes to the sprinkler valves.

would it be better to mod it using a 3/4 npt nipple for a blow gun or leave the electric triggering system and use that with a battery set up?
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Unread postAuthor: Pilgrimman » Tue May 27, 2008 5:27 pm

What I do is use a 1/4" nipple in the blowgun, and thread the other end in. It is MUCH more effective than the electronic trigger! Solenoid valves can open 5 times faster when using a blowgun!
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Unread postAuthor: STHORNE » Tue May 27, 2008 5:36 pm

Pilgrimman wrote:Solenoid valves can open 5 times faster when using a blowgun!


I hope you mean "sprinkler valves" because the Solenoid is the electronic device itself (black and about the size of a golf ball), and not the whole valve.
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Unread postAuthor: MaxuS the 2nd » Tue May 27, 2008 6:46 pm

Real good name you have for the topic there, I suggest an edit so it's a little more specific.
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Unread postAuthor: Pilgrimman » Tue May 27, 2008 7:10 pm

I just refer to them as solenoid valves because that's how they are meant to operate.
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Unread postAuthor: STHORNE » Tue May 27, 2008 7:12 pm

True, but it's not what they actually are, as far as there literal term/name. But that's besides the point...

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Unread postAuthor: Carlman » Wed May 28, 2008 12:56 am

STHORNE wrote:True, but it's not what they actually are, as far as there literal term/name. But that's besides the point...

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Umm...wrong.

they are solenoid valves as they operate off a solenoid. take a look at link below and search solenoid valve on google.
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http://www.duralirrigation.com.au/onlin ... tionID=640[/url]

And OP yes you are definitely better off to mod your valve to save you money in the long run and for a great power increase.
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Unread postAuthor: microman171 » Wed May 28, 2008 1:42 am

Actually... To add my two cents, The 'Solenoid Valves' or 'Sprinkler Valves' are diaphragm valves. The solenoid is the pilot for the diaphragm. I may be wrong here (I did a little research so I dont think so) but as far as I know the valves dont get pulled open by the solenoid, the solenoid pilots the diaphragm valve.
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Unread postAuthor: Carlman » Wed May 28, 2008 1:51 am

microman171 wrote:Actually... To add my two cents, The 'Solenoid Valves' or 'Sprinkler Valves' are diaphragm valves. The solenoid is the pilot for the diaphragm. I may be wrong here (I did a little research so I dont think so) but as far as I know the valves dont get pulled open by the solenoid, the solenoid pilots the diaphragm valve.


we know this, that is why you can mod them in a way that we do

the solenoid unblocks a hole that releases air on top of the diapragm just the blowgun does it faster
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Unread postAuthor: microman171 » Wed May 28, 2008 2:08 pm

exactly (I thought I was right about that) But saying they are solenoid valves even with no solenoid is wrong, they are infact diaphragm valves.

*buts out* :lol:

Definatly modify it. Or you caould not modify it and see how it works out. Then when you want more power get a blowgun and modify it. That way you get to try out both of the methods for yourself.
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Unread postAuthor: jr » Wed May 28, 2008 10:47 pm

you will be amased at the power differentce between a modded valve and a stock valve :shock:

I know I was :P
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