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finding force using volume and psi HELP!!!how can you find the force in Newtons without using kinematics and only using the size of your air tank and what psi its at?
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Force on what from what? This post is very vague. Describe what you want in more detail.
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Re: finding force using volume and psi HELP!!!
Force = Pressure x Area Force in Pounds Pressure in Pounds per Square Inch Area in Inches So if your barrel is 2" in diameter (pi x 1^2) = 3.14 inches^2 and has 100PSI in it, assuming the projectile is a good fit in the barrel, there will be 314 pounds of force on the projectile. edit: Then convert that to Newtons.
I bet he's trying to find out the kinetic energy from when the round strikes a target.
What's the poll up to? To answer the question properly, however, you should do what btrettel suggests. A good start for you, though, is to learn and use GGDT.
Volume of air tank has no effect on force on the internals, just surface area and pressure. What are you trying to find? A certain force on part of the internals? If the materials you are using for your chamber will hold?
Maybe he's looking for the average force on the projectile during its travel down the barrel, which will depend on the volume of the chamber, as well as the starting pressure.
Hard to answer such a vague question though.
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sorry about the vague question but i built a 9' tall potato cannon and i have no safe place to shoot it thats near by so i cant time how long the potato is in the air for so kinematics is out. i needed to find the buzzel velocity of the cannon without firing it. to do that i need the force the pneumatic chamber exerted on the potato so that i could use F=ma to find the acceleraion then multiply it by my barrel length (10'). thanks for the help MrCrowley
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70psi 1.5 diameter barrel potato mass=.25kg barrel length= 3.2m does somone want to do this math for me cause my brain just aint working right now and i dont have time. let me know if you need anymore info
Assuming that the 70 psi stays constant after you open whatever valve it is (which it doesn't, especially as the spud travels down the barrel, it may be worth it to calculate the jerk because the number I will supply here is greater than actual), the spud experiences an acceleration of 2.51 m/s^2.
Area of spud acted on by pressure 0.00114 m^2 Area of spud acted on by pressure 1.77 in^2 Force experienced by spud 123.7 lbs Force experienced by spud 550.24 N Acceleration of spud 2,200 m/s^2 Muzzle velocity of spud 118.7 m/s That's the best I can do for you, since I don't know how to account for the depressurization behind the spud as it travels down the barrel. I would need to know your chamber volume to calculate that not that I'm sure I could. Please remember, THE MUZZLE VELOCITY IS INFLATED. Given the chamber volume, I will do my best to give a better approximation. EDIT: I cannot supply the maths for a varying force, which is exactly what would be exerted on the spud as it travels down the barrel, since I am unfamiliar with calculus. I sure could probably find a friend to do so for me, if you are willing to wait.
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70psi 1.5 diameter barrel potato mass=.25kg barrel length= 3.2m does somone want to do this math for me cause my brain just aint working right now and i dont have time. let me know if you need anymore info
Chamber volume? The math I gave you is as accurate as most will get, and as accurate as possible without calculus.
oops i re posted but fork calculus its to much works all i wanted was a rough velocity thanks for the math
I agree, fork calc. And now that I figured out how to do the math for your gun... I should do it for mine and see if it matches my audio chrono estimate.
 
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