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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:01 pm

My XRV gun, could be portable with a propane tank mounted on it or a shock pump, I wouldnt use propane though since its metal and could easily cause a spark
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:03 pm

Yeah I mean the kind with hte mounted shock pump, since the chamber vol. is so little it takes a short time to reload, probably ideal for airsoft.
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:07 pm

Well when your getting shot with a 50 rps 400fps mp5 you really dont want to have to pump. muzzle load, then slide down the barrel
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:09 pm

that's why i said a good mag system. and a good xvr can get higher velocities than that
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:14 pm

But it still takes about 5 pumps to build up the pressure, id rather have a 400 fps machine gun that can fire 50 times in a three seconds than a gun that can only shoot 10 times a minute
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:15 pm

ok well the point of this discussion is not which gun to buy, but which one to build.
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:17 pm

and Im suggesting not to build a sniper but a BBMG, he could either build a turret or use regulated HPA, CO2, or unregulated propane, even a stationary turret would be ok
Heres a interesting one but he could mod a cartridge to hold more air like JSR did
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Unread postAuthor: hunternet93 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:02 am

For a magazine setup, I'm thinking about getting an old magazine from another airsoft gun. What would be a good way to get a BB in the barrel after each shot? I don't mind having to cock it. I'm thinking maybe having a lever pull open a slot in the barrel, then pulling the stop thing on the magazine back, thus loading a BB.

EDIT: I didn't even notice the whole second page... I've decided to make a sniper rifle. I already have a great shotgun (my weapon of choice) for airsoft, and a CO2 sidearm. I just want to build a gun for fun. A BBMG would be nice, but I'd need to lug around a lot of stuff. And BTW, sometimes its better to have one shot and hit the opponent then to have 1000+ shots and miss in rapid succession :P
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:29 am

as suggested before you can just use the hop up unit of an airsoft gun
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:11 pm

hunternet93 wrote: And BTW, sometimes its better to have one shot and hit the opponent then to have 1000+ shots and miss in rapid succession :P

Well it be hard to miss with 1000 shots, as for the mag, just buy a cheapo rifle from ebay and remove the barrel, hop up and mag setup, then just add what ever air and valve setup you choose
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Unread postAuthor: hunternet93 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:19 pm

clemsonguy1125 wrote:Well it be hard to miss with 1000 shots, as for the mag, just buy a cheapo rifle from ebay and remove the barrel, hop up and mag setup, then just add what ever air and valve setup you choose


You're right, I guess... But sniping is more fun :). I guess I'll find an old bolt-action sniper rifle or something and take the parts. What PSI and chamber size should I aim for to get around 450-500 FPS, and prefferably more than one shot? I've heard about shock pumps, but I have no idea what they are and Google provides no answers.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:24 pm

hunternet93 wrote:I have no idea what they are and Google provides no answers.


Bicycle shock absorber pump - a cheap if a little tedious way of achieving higher pressures, though really only good for smaller chambers.

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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 3:25 pm

There small hand pumps that reach high pressures, there made for mountain bikes and can reach 300+ psi, without knowing your chamber volume or type of valve I cant tell you what pressure you need
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Unread postAuthor: hunternet93 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:16 pm

clemsonguy1125 wrote:There small hand pumps that reach high pressures, there made for mountain bikes and can reach 300+ psi, without knowing your chamber volume or type of valve I cant tell you what pressure you need
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I haven't even begun to buy any parts, I came here asking for advice, as I have no idea what would be the best way to do this. What would be the best sub-$50 chamber&valve setup?
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:30 pm

For semi, a hammer valve, for a single shot, a piston valve, Id use galvinised steel
Hammer Valve
http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/hammer- ... 19924.html
Single Shot Piston Valve
http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/high-pr ... 19694.html
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http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/coaxial ... 20407.html
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