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Paintball Machine Gun, A Few Questions

Post questions and info about pneumatic (compressed gas) powered cannons here. This includes discussion about valves, pipe types, compressors, alternate gas setups, and anything else relevant.
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:57 pm

All sprinkler valve I've used honked, what if you arrange the design so it is filled from the pilot side?
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:58 pm

no im filling this from the chamber side
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:01 pm

Why? Filling from the pilot would prevent honking.
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:02 pm

no it wouldnt, dont you fill supernova from chamber side
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:02 pm

Gun Freak wrote:Why? Filling from the pilot would prevent honking.


Filling from the chamber side with enough flow will also prevent honking.

Also, having the air feed into the pilot means the valve will open much less quicker and the design will waste a lot more air, which might be a concern if it is a portable design.
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:03 pm

clemsonguy1125 wrote:no it wouldnt, dont you fill supernova from chamber side

Yes, but I never said it didn't honk :wink:
Also, having the air feed into the pilot means the valve will open much less quicker and the design will waste a lot more air, which might be a concern if it is a portable design.

True dat, scratch it.
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:03 pm

i plan to have it adjustable between shop air, and propane
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:07 pm

clemsonguy1125 wrote:i plan to have it adjustable between shop air, and propane

I might get a propane setup myself, for my bbmg. Let me know how that goes...
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:07 pm

I will, but itll be a while before i build the gun, much less hook up a propane setup
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Unread postAuthor: Gun Freak » Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:09 pm

Ah ok, not like you... normally you plan a gun and build it the next day, then spit out a few more by the week's end :roll: :D
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Unread postAuthor: ramses » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:20 pm

I will fill in for Poland spud and suggest a 3 way valve as the pilot. Or a 4 way, which would allow you to fill from the chamber.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:26 pm

ramses wrote:I will fill in for Poland spud and suggest a 3 way valve as the pilot. Or a 4 way, which would allow you to fill from the chamber.


With a 3 way, the air feed is blocked off when the pilot is opened so no need for chamber filling. Hooking up the pilot side to a pop-off should technically allow you to retain the full-auto function.
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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:29 pm

Yeah yeah yeah, I build a couple guns a month sometimes but they are usually cheap but this a bigger and harder build so I'll spend a while planning it and I'd use a 3 way but there expensive and I've never really under stood them. Also do they work like piston valves or diaphram valves, and they are triggered electronically arent they.
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:31 pm

clemsonguy1125 wrote:I'd use a 3 way but there expensive and I've never really under stood them. Also do they work like piston valves or diaphram valves, and they are triggered electronically arent they.


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Unread postAuthor: clemsonguy1125 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:44 pm

Thanks I'll read that, should explain a lot.
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