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Unread postAuthor: CS » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:36 pm

I have a chronograph! :-p

I've personally made a few 2" porting chamber sealing valves myself. I've got it pretty nice, my mothers job is ordering for a national lumber store, at our local store. So I get access to anything one would find in a typical hardware store, for 10% over cost. As it is I can make a complete valve for what it costs to buy a 2.5" tee off of McMaster, and have it shipped. My valves being in cased in a 2.5" tee, with a .5" brass ball valve vent. I machine them on my 8x12 Central Machinery metal mini-lathe. A couple of people have made offers on the personal level for valves, in which I intend to fulfill. Why I would like to start selling them publicly, I think the income created from personal sales will be sufficient to fund the tinkering projects, not currently interested in dealing with the 'politics' of selling.

While I don't intend to discourage you, but I think your wanting to do this is largely created out of anger, if you will. So your intent, and will may waver as such anger is wearing off.

As others have stated, the 2.5" porting will largely be un-beneficial. I do not believe I need to re-illiterate as to why, just to again conform.

Currently we have Joel a man of large reputation. He builds nice guns, and if you know of any spudding related sites on the web, you know SpudTech. As he has had a large back order, it seems he has tamed it back down to suitable times. Seem as if he had a lot of personal problems. Although, as a result of such I might exploit that the slow shipping times are no longer a viable sale point.

Then you got Gort, BC, and Nick [SpudShot.com] that have there own little sites. Nothing overwhelming successful, but at the same time I'm sure there turning sufficient profits.

I think as we all can tell DR, and Rob are edging there way into the market. DR holds the rep, while Rob owns a prototyping development company in which can replicate parts via a polyurethane casting process.

If you feel there is a market that is worth your time by all means pursue, although I might first suggest that you establish some type of 'rep' in the spudding community. While yes there may be a few 'noobs' to jump at your sale of these valves, but without a rep the sales will not be persistent.
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Unread postAuthor: Velocity » Tue Feb 06, 2007 9:46 pm

Agreed. And what better way to gain a good spudding reputation than to build an insanely powerful and sick spudgun? :D
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:03 pm

@BLB - Yeah, But you know alot more then most people here. I didn't base the list on if your a mod or your post count. I based it on the experience i've had with those members. And those members i've listed either have experience with piston valves or know what they're doing. You can make a chrony using a laptop. Just place a laptop 10' away from the gun,place the target 20' away from the gun so the laptop is in the middle. Then just record the time between the shooting of the gun and the impact of the projectile and figure out the fps.
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Unread postAuthor: Hawkeye » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:16 pm

Are you sure he's basing it on his anger? I would think that if he has worked for a paintball company he would be more than capable of making his own in the first place. Likely it is based more on the anger of others and he would like to step in and give them a quicker response time.
I must say there is a pattern to the phenomenon of a small company that gets overwhelmed with orders and personal problems.
It always sounds vaguely like the old "my grandmother died" or "the dog ate my homework".
I would think a bit before getting in a situation that may be tough to fulfill promises.
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Unread postAuthor: frankrede » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:51 pm

Well If I had money I would get one of his valves. I would have to see it in action though.
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Unread postAuthor: Insomniac » Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:38 am

Will these valves be chamber sealing (like a supah) or barrel sealing (like a mauler)?
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Unread postAuthor: drac » Thu Feb 08, 2007 8:40 pm

I also have a chronograph. I'm not a math whiz though, so I'd be willing to send the numbers to someone who is willing to interpret the data.
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Unread postAuthor: boilingleadbath » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:49 pm

Oh, interpreting data is fun. :D
(I think that's my first emoticon in the last few months, BTW)
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Unread postAuthor: judgment_arms » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:25 pm

MrCrowley wrote:Well i don't live in the US(Im In New Zealand)so im out of the question.

People I would recomend:

sgort87(though he sells his own valves)
pimpmann22
boilingleadbath
BCPneumatics
Drac(not sure what he's up to these days)
Spudblaster
Judgement_arms
Schmanman(Just look at S.W.A.T gun)
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Not that I’m complaining, but, why me?
I’d be honored to try one of 'em out, I could put it on one my existing gun, or finally construct my Coke Cannon (don't ask). But I don't have a crony, I do, however, have a LARGE area to shoot in, I could give you ranges along with the specs of the gun so you could get a ruff idea of how powerful it is.
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Unread postAuthor: COD_FILLETS » Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:28 pm

noname wrote:Way to go, just leave me off the list... :D
I would be glad to test a valve, though I don't have any cannons big enough...


Lol, sounds like someone wants some free parts.
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Unread postAuthor: noname » Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:11 pm

I would like one for free, yes. But would you give me one, that's the real question.
I'm saying that if I had a cannon big enough to use with that valve, I would test it.
A free valve would give me incentive to build a cannon that big. (hint hint :D )
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Fri Feb 09, 2007 12:42 am

judgment_arms wrote:
MrCrowley wrote:Well i don't live in the US(Im In New Zealand)so im out of the question.

People I would recomend:

sgort87(though he sells his own valves)
pimpmann22
boilingleadbath
BCPneumatics
Drac(not sure what he's up to these days)
Spudblaster
Judgement_arms
Schmanman(Just look at S.W.A.T gun)
jrrdw

Ive probably forgotten a few people, my mind is blank right now.


Not that I’m complaining, but, why me?
I’d be honored to try one of 'em out, I could put it on one my existing gun, or finally construct my Coke Cannon (don't ask). But I don't have a crony, I do, however, have a LARGE area to shoot in, I could give you ranges along with the specs of the gun so you could get a ruff idea of how powerful it is.


Because I was thinking of American people on this website that have either:

1.Tought me something really(and I mean really) useful.
2. Know their sh*t(By the posts they have made)
3.Proved me wrong
4.Very knowledgable or done all/some the above.

Judgement I guess you fall under the 2nd catagory.
i've only got in one heated discussion and was proved wrong and that person know's who he/she is :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: tylerthetatertosser » Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:28 am

MrCrowley wrote:Well i don't live in the US(Im In New Zealand)so im out of the question.

People I would recomend:

sgort87(though he sells his own valves)
pimpmann22
boilingleadbath
BCPneumatics
Drac(not sure what he's up to these days)
Spudblaster
Judgement_arms
Schmanman(Just look at S.W.A.T gun)
jrrdw

Ive probably forgotten a few people, my mind is blank right now.


spudblaster15 is canadian.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:31 am

Yeah I know,but I figured he's pretty close so shipping shouldnt be bad.
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Unread postAuthor: zeigs spud » Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:19 am

schmanman wrote:there is defiantly a market for this. go ahead, competition is good! beat him at his own game!


lol thats the best way to beat someone!

i say go for it you sound qualified! :D
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