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Unread postAuthor: CannonCreator » Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:26 am

I axidently came over this site looking for some unusual pvc fittings. This looks very bad for PVC, but I think its just PVC in general. Which is probably still Bad. Check it out

http://www.pvcfree.org/

But I disagree with it
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Unread postAuthor: wannabie » Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:33 am

i disagree. anyway they will never ban plumbing pvc its everywhere :P
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:34 am

PVC (polyvinyl chloride) plastic, commonly referred to as vinyl, is one of the most hazardous consumer products ever created. PVC is dangerous to human health and the environment throughout its entire life cycle, at the factory, in our homes, and in the trash. Our bodies are contaminated with poisonous chemicals released during the PVC lifecycle, such as mercury, dioxins, and phthalates, which may pose irreversible life-long health threats. When produced or burned, PVC plastic releases dioxins, a group of the most potent synthetic chemicals ever tested, which can cause cancer and harm the immune and reproductive systems


Sh|t :shock:

Looks like i'll be building full metal cannons from now on :wink:

Doesn't sound too good, but I don't burn PVC often :P
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Unread postAuthor: f.c » Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:43 am

guys i really think that website is a load of bullshit. they will never ban pvc anyway as metal pipe is too expensive.
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Unread postAuthor: CannonCreator » Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:07 am

f.c wrote:guys i really think that website is a load of bullshit. they will never ban pvc anyway as metal pipe is too expensive.


Dude, I HOPE your Right!
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Unread postAuthor: Killjoy » Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:17 am

pssh whatever, the amount of toxins that the pvc would release would be so miniscule over a short period of time, and even in the long term it would most likely not realease enough toxins to be dangerous (unless of course you ate ground pvc with every meal, and smoked it in a pipe, then you'd be screwed). The burning pvc thing though is bad, but that doesn't happen on a daily basis.
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Unread postAuthor: TwitchTheAussie » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:05 am

Exactly. Its just a heap of bs. Unless your eating it then of course its gonna be bad for you. Theres no way anybody could ban plumbing pvc.
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Unread postAuthor: rna_duelers » Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:30 am

Those 3 arrows stand for being recyclable,it wouldn't have the symbol on it if it wasn't...Have you ever heated PVC?It melts very easily,which is important with recycling you melt down all the PVC to a liquid state and inject it into moulds/sheets etc,bam recycled PVC.

Thats a lot of bullshit,they would not use it in so many pipelines,toys,food utensils or food containers governments all around the world would not have give something the "ok" if it was so toxic.

This is the stuff that comes out of a bulls ass.
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Unread postAuthor: Hubb » Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:03 am

I'm agreeing with the BS theory. This site was posted by some hippie liberal that just wanted a website, or by some pipe company that competes against PVC (or is it a conspiracy from the government?)

Honestly, how many people do you know of that has been killed by "PVC poisoning?" I don't know of any.

I think we can all agree that if you burn (not melt) PVC it might produce some harmful vapors, but so does just about everything else we burn.
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Unread postAuthor: joannaardway » Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:41 am

Actually, it's largely true. It's been hyped up quite a bit, but it's not good for you.

I wouldn't deliberately go out of my way to burn PVC, and use a dust mask when I'm cutting it. Those simple precautions will be adequate protection - unless you're stupid enough to try and get high off the fumes, or actively eat it.

Other than when you are cutting it and producing dust, it's not going to endanger your life.
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Unread postAuthor: boilingleadbath » Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:24 pm

Most of their points derive from the fact that most PVC products on the consumer markets (inflatable chairs, baby toys, what-have-you) are made of plasticized PVC.

PVC pipe is unplasticized, so most of their comments don't apply.
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Unread postAuthor: TurboSuper » Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:56 am

PVC has beeen around for a couple of generations now, and people don't seem to be dropping dead in the streets. That alone goes to show that it's danger is being played up quite a bit.

Like, Jo said, PVC dust is known to be toxic, so just wear a dust mask and you'll be fine.
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Unread postAuthor: Matheusilla » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:54 am

Most of what we hear about PVC is true, however, it is hyped up a bit. I learned about it in environmental studies, and even forced myself to watch a documentary about vinyl. The poison/toxicity facts are true. Sure, you probably won't die from cutting some pipe, or sniffing your shower curtain, but the truth of the matter is that vinyl is everywhere. The big picture is that we are introducing more and more of it into our environment, putting even more load on our already taxed ecosystem. It doesn't decompose quickly at all and even when it does it still remains as toxic elements in our environment.
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Unread postAuthor: iknowmy3tables » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:23 am

OH nO I better start making my cannons out of lead now

I did a little research and pvc pipe and hard pvc should be fine it doesn't use any toxic phthalates to make it softer
and I think soft pvc can be safe depending on what plasticizers are used
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Unread postAuthor: Gepard » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:31 am

I havn't even opened it but the fact it's .org suggests it 's got to contain extremely biased content.
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