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Unread postAuthor: thespeedycicada » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:19 pm

In my new house that i will shortly be moving into i will have the space in the garage for a 6 or 7 ft long workbench.I could make holes to organize and store pipe in it i could create a fitting organizer and install a heater for drying fittings faster i could give my self a good swivel chair and i have an old tv laying around that i could hook up.Yes it would be a pain and yes it wont be cheap but spudding is my true one and only hobby and i am willing to dedicate alot to it.But i still ask you guys is a big workstation custom built for spudding worth it?
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Unread postAuthor: th3p0p0 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:24 pm

hell yes. if you love it that much do it. i think that it would be sweet.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:24 pm

thespeedycicada wrote: is a big workstation custom built for spudding worth it?

HELL YES! :D

Do it! :P
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Unread postAuthor: th3p0p0 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:25 pm

wow thats creepy.^^ both at 20:24 PM :lol: and we both said hell yes.
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Unread postAuthor: DYI » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:28 pm

Now it just needs a built in chrony with a wall made of gravel for a backstop :D
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Unread postAuthor: thespeedycicada » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:32 pm

good idea DYI i can make a box that i can shove some old towels in and mount it to the bench....
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Unread postAuthor: DYI » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:49 pm

I've never been able to understand the spudder who builds guns that can be stopped with a box of towels, but to each his own.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:57 pm

DYI wrote:I've never been able to understand the spudder who builds guns that can be stopped with a box of towels, but to each his own.

Money, size limitation, laws, practicability, availability, parental limitation, preference, knowledge, the list goes on.
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Unread postAuthor: clide » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:13 pm

DYI wrote:I've never been able to understand the spudder who builds guns that can be stopped with a box of towels, but to each his own.


If properly setup and not using an ammo purposely designed for penetration then a box of towels could stop most of the guns on this site. Yours is one of the few exceptions, but I would say even that could be stopped if the box was deep enough. Of course the box would be trashed and you would have towels fused to your ammo, but I think it could be stopped without doing significant damage to the surroundings.
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Unread postAuthor: SpudBlaster15 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:39 pm

DYI wrote:I've never been able to understand the spudder who builds guns that can be stopped with a box of towels, but to each his own.


Its all about the scale of destruction you are looking for. For me, extremely powerful and large cannons have significant thrill factor, but in general lose out to smaller, more practical cannons in terms of fun factor.

Hauling a monstrous 12ft+ long, 50lb+ cannon out into a yard, spending 10 minutes loading it and preparing it to fire, then firing it and demolishing a rather large scale target is fun for a shot or two, but eventually, it becomes annoying, especially when you can't find targets that would be worth shooting at.

Smaller launchers can cause impressive damage to smaller and more readily available targets, while being much easier and quicker to load and fire. Hell, my favorite launcher barely exceeds the muzzle energy output of a .22LR, but the damage it can do with paintballs of all things is really what makes it enjoyable.

Just my personal preference, but if I find something large laying around, I'd rather "dispose" of it using explosives rather than shoot it with a large gun.
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Unread postAuthor: DYI » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:43 pm

Well, a big enough box of towels could stop almost anything, couldn't it? The question is how big a box one would need. A box a few feet deep filled with tightly packed towels would make a pretty good backstop... *goes off to the drawing board*

I agree with your point SB15. The real trick (and the thing I've been pursuing for a while) is the launcher that is both awesomely powerful, and always fun to shoot. It will be a while before I achieve such a thing, but I'm certainly coming closer. The remake I mentioned in another thread amounts to the next step along that trail.
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Unread postAuthor: thespeedycicada » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:46 pm

Yea sb15 is right im not ito things over 1.5 inch barrel size id rather have a pneumatic steel piston gun (coming soon) that can punch a steel slug through a computer than a huge gun that can send that computer flying back 4 feet but without that sheer penetration power.

The fact that i can walk around with my gun makes it more fun for me i guess.
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Unread postAuthor: SpudBlaster15 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:58 pm

Thespeedycicada has a good point; I've always found launchers that can be fired from your own hands to be more enjoyable to operate. However, because our launchers by nature use much lower pressures than comparable firearms, building a launcher small enough to be fired from ones hands, while still maintaining comparable energy density figures is a very difficult task.
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Unread postAuthor: bigbob12345 » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:20 pm

Ive always been more impressed by pentration than sheer destruction.
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Unread postAuthor: noob of noobs » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:23 pm

DYI wrote:I've never been able to understand the spudder who builds guns that can be stopped with a box of towels, but to each his own.


I agree with everything everyone's said. I'm in a heavily populated city environment, and am mostly confined to my basement for shooting purposes. Also, I can't afford an air compressor, so that's a huge limiting factor for size. Pumping two five foot 2" chambers up to 100 psi isn't fun at all.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy destruction cannons that blow crap high into the sky, but I'd rather have a gun that sends a nail dart through a small surface, piercing a small target with deadly accuracy. Sniping is more fun than bombing. :D
As to the actual topic, I'd fully recomend your new work area. Afterall, you need a good environment to make good cannons! A TV might be a bit overkill, but if you have on lying around, it can't hurt. I however would recomend you get a computer of some sort in there so you can acces spudfiles to look stuff up when the moment calls for it. Also, make sure you don't have any fire hazzerds lying around the space heater like PVC primer, cement, and propane/MAPP. My parents always nag at me since there's an open flame where I work (the furnace) and I produce a fair ammount of dust and frequently need to work with flamables. I assume you can provide an air compressor?
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