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Unread postAuthor: DYI » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:27 pm

Just to give everyone a heads up, but plans have changed. [redacted], as everyone seems to call it, won't be getting built, at least any time in the foreseeable future. This is because of several reasons; legality, weight, cost, ease of use, and practicality being the most important. The mass of the design was quickly approaching a metric tonne, and reloading would be a very slow, painful process, even with the stand. As much fun as it would have been, it just can't be realised right now.

I offer no apologies, as this design wasn't even supposed to be released until I was well into the construction phase, mostly to avoid disappointing anyone if it became impossible to complete.

However, I do need a good summer project, and an earth-shaking BOOM followed by large masses leaving a pipe at ridiculously high velocities are prerequisites.

I've already designed the BOOM, the pipe, and the large masses at high velocities. I'm currently working with Larda on the whole "allowing it to survive more than one shot" part. More information will follow, but so far I'll say that the current project is called "Thor", and leave it at that.
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Unread postAuthor: bigbob12345 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:30 pm

aww
Thats too bad, I was really looking forward to it.
Well no sleep lost
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Unread postAuthor: daberno123 » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:33 pm

You give me something to look forward to with these hints you give...


Hmm... Thor is the god of thunder... well good luck on whatever it is you're building
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Re: Scarab, BFG, End of World, etc...

Unread postAuthor: judgment_arms » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:40 pm

DYI wrote:...More information will follow, but so far I'll say that the current project is called "Thor", and leave it at that.


Funny, I got a project called Moljinir (Thor’s hammer); which is a pneumatic howitzer.
The goal being a cannon capable of putting a specialized air bust canister full of paintballs down range between a quarter and a half a mile; hoping for a kill zone of between 1-10 acres…

Oh the ironies. :D
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Unread postAuthor: DYI » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:51 pm

I'm pretty sure the correct spelling of the name of Thor's hammer is "Mjolnir", but whatever. And this Mjolnir project of yours sounds interesting, and also rather difficult... I mean really, a kill zone of 1 acre? That's an awful lot of paint.

And to anyone looking for fine white print, you're wasting your time. It gave away the first project, and I won't allow that to happen again.
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Unread postAuthor: judgment_arms » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:23 pm

DYI wrote:I'm pretty sure the correct spelling of the name of Thor's hammer is "Mjolnir", but whatever. And this Mjolnir project of yours sounds interesting, and also rather difficult... I mean really, a kill zone of 1 acre? That's an awful lot of paint.


Humm… so it is… how the heck did I do that!
Crap, now I got to go and fix it on my web site…

Well, it probably has something to do with the fact that I haven’t seen it spelled in over a year, and, come to find out, I have been pronouncing it wrong, I pronounced it “MOLE-ju(as in just)-NEAR”, when it’s really MOLE-NEAR or something like that…

…humm… I like the sound of Moljinir better than Mjolnir, do I go with the correct spelling/pronunciation or the incorrect one?


As for the howitzer, I’m looking at a 20+ pound load of paint, and there’s 10 paintballs to the ounce…
it’s going to be a HUGE cannon, main reason I haven’t built it yet…
estimated 40+ foot 4 inch barrel; four 3 inch by 20 foot chambers; four 3 inch porting piston valves; recoil operated, automatic, fed from an eight round hopper… 8)
edit: GGDT puts that at .44 mile range. 8)

Yeah, don’t expect this one for another 5+ years… :D
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Unread postAuthor: Spuddin » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:36 pm

you do dream big, btw with something that enormous you may as well move up to pumkin chunkin! :D
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Unread postAuthor: judgment_arms » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:41 pm

Were do you think I got the inspiration? :D

Being a four incher I could shoot pumpkins…:idea:
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:02 pm

judgment_arms wrote: have been pronouncing it wrong, I pronounced it “MOLE-ju(as in just)-NEAR”, when it’s really MOLE-NEAR or something like that

AFAIK, it's pronounced Mij-ol-near, where the "Mij" is pronounced something like "Midge".

I like the sound of Moljinir better than Mjolnir, do I go with the correct spelling/pronunciation or the incorrect one?

What do you imagine the man with the viking username will say?

Ok, strictly Ragnarok should be spelt Ragnarök when using a Latin based alphabet, but not all computers and fonts will display the ö properly, so I don't often use it.

I'm a fan of letters like ä, ö, ü, æ;, œ, ñ, þ, ð, ſ, that kind of thing, but I seldom use them, because most people mix them up with other things - you might note however that I spell dæmon with an æ; (sometimes known as "ash").
For example, the lower case þ letter (thorn), pronounced as "th", has been confused for the letter "y" in texts, giving rise to the pseudo-archaism "Ye", used in terms like "Ye olde tea shoppe" It was actually "þe", which was still pronounced "the".


So that might answer that question. I'm something of a stickler for words being spelt "right", even if that means using letters considered extinct.

@DYI: Sounds a cool project. I had a project that was called Thor once, but it eventually it got renamed to "Timberwolf" - want to guess what my current avatar shows? Always been a fan of wolves - I did once consider the usernames Fenrir and Skoll (both Viking wolf demi-gods), but went with Ragnarok because I sometimes get called that by friends. Although considering that my current username gets shortened to Rag, which sometimes gets mixed up with that small piece of fabric used for cleaning up things, Skoll or something might have been a better choice.

I must get back to it some time, but I moved onto other things because I felt I could use more experience building before attempting the complex shell loader.
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Unread postAuthor: judgment_arms » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:45 pm

Ragnarok, you never cease to amaze me.

Okay, Mjolnir it is, I guess I’ll have to go fix that on my website.

As for the pronunciation, I’ve heard it molly-near (some stupid cartoon), mole-near (some show on the history channel), they used both mole-ju-near and mij-ol-near on Stargate SG-1…

What is with everyone and Norse mythology?
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Unread postAuthor: MaxuS the 2nd » Fri Apr 25, 2008 4:54 pm

Wow, Larda is like the go-to guy for machining.
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:11 pm

judgment_arms wrote:Ragnarok, you never cease to amaze me.

I come with it built in: "Guaranteed to be unlikely to cease to amaze. Warning: Guarantee invalid after purchase."

The pronunciation of these things is always somewhat up for debate. Older languages had different phonetics, and a word that starts with "Mj-" is always going to be tricky, because it's natural to put a vowel in there.

Just ask around how people say "pwned", and before long, you'll have an array of answers like those below.:
- "Owned, it was just a mis-spell, why does that change the pronunciation"
- "Powned"
- "Pooned"
- "Pawned"
- "Pound"
- "That's not a word"
- "You're not supposed to say it, it's typed"
... and more.

Um... that's probably the linguist in me again. As I said in the "How did you start spudding" thread (or whatever it's called), I just can't stop analysing things and wondering how they work.

Language is one of those things that fascinates me.
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Unread postAuthor: Pyro Ninja » Sat Apr 26, 2008 4:37 am

MJOLNIR armour = Master chiefs armour
Just thought Id add that :)
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Sat Apr 26, 2008 7:38 am

Pyro Ninja wrote:MJOLNIR armour = Master Chief's armour

Yes... Much although I love Halo (and I did remember that) - There are dozens of things that have been named Mjolnir, why should that one be chosen over the original use?
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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:14 am

well i would like if this gets on the tracks again:P

and for DYI is the cannon a hybrid?
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