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Unread postAuthor: john bunsenburner » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:30 pm

OK i am building a new rifle and i want it to have a proper gun stock. I have a dreamel block of woad, selfmade sander and a power drill, then all the normal stoff some one would have... Does any one here have ideas of how i could build my stock quick and simple...i can get new tools it i must...
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Unread postAuthor: Floyd » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:59 pm

The best advice I think could be given is draw it out as lifesize as possible, lay it on the wood and only cut one dimension at a time.

First cut the general shape, than cut curves/more complicated shapes.

This might help you.

Pay attention to the tool he uses to cut the groove for the barrel/chamber/thing that you are mounting it on.
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:26 pm

Woo. Credit.

Making a stock is not particularly hard by any means - if you've got Chisels, a saw, a wood rasp and some sand paper, you're effectively in business - Dremels, drills and power sanders will make it easier.

One of the most important things you can make is one of these:
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb12 ... G_0823.jpg

This is a guide for cutting the inletting, and makes it very easy to see where you need to trim the groove back - much easier than trying to guess, because guessing will cause you to cut out a whole heap of material that really needed to stay in place.

It's just got a shape in the middle that's the same shape as the launcher/rifle parts that you want to be set within the inletting, and two blocks on the outside to pull it all into line. However, take your time making it, as an error here will cause mayhem.

You can see my homemade stock (bottom) against the original (top) in this photo:
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb12 ... arison.jpg

Although it might not look quite as fancy, the new one is a lot more comfortable, shorter, has helped my accuracy, and even has a touch of thumbhole "bling" to it (if you want a thumbhole, you will need a spade stylewood drill bit, probably approaching 1" in size).
Eventually, the new design will be remade in a fancier wood than the spruce 4-by-2 it's currently made from.
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Unread postAuthor: nivekatoz » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:53 pm

Take your time. Do you want it done right, or do you want it fast and cheap..If its worth doing, its worth doing WELL!! If you have the tools and the know-how, than take your time to do a good job..
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Unread postAuthor: SEAKING9006 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:37 pm

Better idea: Buy a secondhand air rifle or get an old shotgun stock, and make a cast of it. Place all of your parts where they need to go, and mold your stock out of bondo. I plan on doing that when (if) I make a pneumatic shotgun.
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Unread postAuthor: john bunsenburner » Fri Nov 07, 2008 1:30 am

OK first of all, thank you for all you help. Second of all(this is at Ragnarok) That stock is absolutely amazing for a self made one. I hope you would be ok if i used it as a guide(I will leave the bling away for that isyou creation any i dont nessasarily need it). One more question: how big would you make the stock, i hav ea 1 meter 50 long peice of scrap woad its about 20 by 20cm(sorry i use metric) i hav etrimmed one sie f the block down to about 10cm and i whant to trim the other side a bit as well. Any one got idea about the trimming? it is some what complicated and takes for ever, i tried the sander with a really rogh surface but it didnt help and fileing the whole thing down would take for ever. Any one have ideas on how to just trimm the block down. i will send some pictures of what it looks like now in a while. Thank you for you help, hope to see you around.
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:05 am

john bunsenburner wrote:I hope you would be ok if i used it as a guide.

Sure, go ahead. I have no problems with that. That design is based on a blend of other stock designs, so I half borrowed it in the first place.

One more question: how big would you make the stock, i hav ea 1 meter 50 long peice of scrap woad its about 20 by 20cm(sorry i use metric)

No problem, I tend to use metric as well, but I can switch between the two - Most people here work in Imperial (for unknown reasons) so I normally talk in imperial for rough measurements when on here.

That stock is about 5 cm thick, 15cm deep and around 75cm long.
As it's made from a piece of wood 5*10cm in cross section, and because it's a test run, the butt was thickened up by gluing the wood I had cut out from under the fore grip in place back there - however, you won't need to do that with a chunk as large as yours.

Any one got idea about the trimming?

Have you not got a handsaw? (Also known as a hardpoint saw in some places) - cut along the length of it to get the dimensions you need for a block to start with, then start cutting down from there.

I took some video of when I was making the stock - it's incomplete, my camera's batteries ran flat, and I had no spares, but it should give you an idea of how to achieve the early stages of the basic shaping.
So, without further ado, the montage!

And yeah... I have that sort of sense of humour.

EDIT: Forgot to point out, most of the drilling is holes for things like the trigger block to sit in (the first set anyway) - the second set is to cut away parts that have to be removed to allow the underlever to be used to cock the rifle.

I don't know how much of that you'll need to do, if any.
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Unread postAuthor: starman » Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:35 am

The one mistake I made several years ago building a wooden stock as a replacement for the plastic one on my Red Ryder BB gun was to make it out of seasoned pecan wood. Made for a beautiful stock but was VERY hard wood and a was a sumbeach to work down.
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Unread postAuthor: nivekatoz » Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:42 pm

Why would you call it a mistake. If it was not worth doing ,why would you do it?
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Unread postAuthor: john bunsenburner » Fri Nov 07, 2008 5:43 pm

Wow this looks like there is ALOT of work coming up...and i gotta get my self a proper saw(mislayed them all, my work space in the mess in person). It is just im a lazy person who is bad with sharp objects but oh well. Also the piece of woad i got it hard woad(pine judging by the sap). Ill get right to work tomorrow(i just back from a disco, i LUV em...and then i had a dinner with relatives, not its 12 and im tiered as a *****) Could one of you master minds(this is not acctually synical) make a list of tools i should get my self for the gun stock, just so i can like get it all and then acctually do this, i like sitting down and not standing up till something is finished...

So thanks in advance, and thanks for all the privious!
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Unread postAuthor: john bunsenburner » Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:37 pm

OK i have worked on my stock quite a bit now, it is acctually pretty nice, i am making it really simple. I am scared that the one big crack that goes through the whole piece of woad will some how affect my gun. I still have to make the part where the barrel lies on and ill try to get some pics up here as soon as possible.
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:14 pm

john bunsenburner wrote:I am scared that the one big crack that goes through the whole piece of woad will some how affect my gun.

If you can get hold of a good wood glue, such as Evostik (I don't know if you can get it in Switzerland, but you should be able to get an equivalent), squirt it the whole way into the crack and clamp it firmly together with a vice, G-cramps or a workmate, the end result should be fine.

A slight error in my measurements meant that I cracked part of the stock I linked to before when I tried cocking it (which generates huge leverage, and on one part the underlever groove was slightly too tight, and the leverage forced open a crack). Good gluing and sanding means it's now utterly impossible to tell.
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Unread postAuthor: john bunsenburner » Sun Nov 09, 2008 4:24 pm

Ok thank you, Ill keep working on it tomorrow after school
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Unread postAuthor: Eric » Thu Nov 27, 2008 7:27 pm

i know this is an older thread but i was wondering if there is any progress on this stock?

here is one i made for a custom .22 LR made completely from canadian parts

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i used two pieces of 1.25 inch thick poplar drew the same pattern on both pieces cut them out glued them together and started shaping. a router table made quick work of the routing and inletting
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Unread postAuthor: SEAKING9006 » Thu Nov 27, 2008 8:10 pm

Now THAT is impressive. :thumbleft:
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