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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:25 pm

well i was playing with a 3D program today, i decided to make the dream version of UPGBH10x and it turned out pretty good.

does anyone have the resources to make something like this? there are some bugs that i could not find the solution to just now, like how sould i get the breech open.

it's a hybrid, valves turned out to be to difficult for me, first time i used the program. so the meter is a bit crappy but you get the idea.

much money, time, a powder coater and a machine shop is what you would need.

just wanted to share it.
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Unread postAuthor: sputnick » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:09 pm

What 3d program were you using? sorry if this is off topic but I have been looking for a decent one for this exact purpose.
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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:32 pm

I'm using Autodesk 3D's Max 2009.
i love it! Autodesk Maya is supposed to be better but i can't really think that it can be better then 3D's max.
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Unread postAuthor: ramses » Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:35 pm

To be honest, the projectile would need some help. All those blunt trailing edges will cause turbulence, and one set would "hide" the fins from doing much. Other than that, I don't have any resources.
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Unread postAuthor: jagerbond » Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:11 pm

Good looking drawing. Sureshot Inc. could build this for you... If interested please PM me.

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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:22 pm

i know that the projectile has a flop there, and i am going to round it off tomorrow, now it's quite late here.

jagerbond/Sureshot: i can make it, but i don't feel like it, i have so much other stuff going on.

but i am sure that someone would buy it from your site if you did make one of those! and that's what i want, get a picture of this gun in reality would be awesome!

actually i think it looks darn cool :P
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Unread postAuthor: pizlo » Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:29 pm

Hahahah ultimate spud charges 1000 dollars for a PVC combustion so this thing would cost... god I wouldn't sell my house for that.
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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:41 pm

so if you could tell me: if you had a product that the extreme hobbyist could build for 100USD, but you has the product at a price of 1000USD, and it sells, why would you set the price down?
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Unread postAuthor: jagerbond » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:06 pm

pizlo wrote:Hahahah ultimate spud charges 1000 dollars for a PVC combustion so this thing would cost... god I wouldn't sell my house for that.


If this was assembled using schedule 40 AL (1.5", 2", 2.5", 4", 5" sizes) our rings, metering, and ignition would bolt right on. build your own rig with burst disc and bolt on our components for $600 +/- $100 depending on ring size.

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Unread postAuthor: psycix » Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:22 pm

Does anyone have the resources to build this?

Hmmmm yes, but I'm not going to.
In right in the middle of a quest to full-auto.

Nice cannon though. Good luck with it.
The projectile isn't very good, besides looking very awesome.
You should have less sharp corners and the thick part in the middle should be placed more towards the front.
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Unread postAuthor: Moonbogg » Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:14 pm

Thats a beautiful model! It nearly brought a tear to my friggin eye. I love seeing this stuff. I love the design. Couple questions...is that a standard return bend or are youn planning on hiring a tube bender?
Also, the barrel support looks like its cantilevering too much for sturdy support.
Is the support post welded? Consider that the chamber will be weak right there since the welding heat will anneal the material. Depending on your planned power use, you may have to re heat treat. It sounds like you aren't interested in building it though. If you were serious about it, you could also use the guys that made the Venom.
If there is no heat treating or anodizing required you'd save a pretty penny for sure. Nice design! I like it a lot.
Oh, what purpose does the muzzle brake serve? If simple looks, you could do without it and save machining costs.
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Unread postAuthor: Hotwired » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:34 pm

The best barrel support for an over-under is the chamber :)

Uses a structure that's already there and doesn't need much dead weight to make the connections.
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Unread postAuthor: starman » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:54 pm

Some nice work with AutoCad there. Some of the parts there look a little generic though. Have you figured out the real world parts and interconnections that would make this thing real?
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Unread postAuthor: Moonbogg » Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:51 am

starman wrote:Some nice work with AutoCad there. Some of the parts there look a little generic though. Have you figured out the real world parts and interconnections that would make this thing real?


Right. Its a lot of fun to let the immagination run wild on a sweet design, until you realize that 95% of the parts don't exist.
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Unread postAuthor: SpudFarm » Tue Apr 21, 2009 2:31 am

if i do build this i will take my time and get it right, i have accses to a machineshop, but i does not have the skills to do everything on this thing yet.

the barrel will be bent with the pipe bender on the shop.

the welding on the chamber is no problem, it is welded before and has 2" thick steel endplates.

if this is the last post when i get home i will edit it to tell more details but i am currently doing an exam :P

oh, BTW, the muzzlebrake is just for looks. i may drop the goodies first and put one part of a tim on later IF i build it.

thanks for the comments!
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