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Unread postAuthor: maverik94 » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:43 pm

ok, I am planning a fully automatic 4.5 mm (.177 cal.) co2 bb gun. Here is my rough design.
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My biggest question is, would the magazine idea work? Or would I need to do some sort of vortex block? Also, this is my first time using co2, so... anyway, i really need feedback, so thanks in advance!
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Unread postAuthor: twizi » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:50 pm

yes it will work

ps why is the handle backwards
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Unread postAuthor: THUNDERLORD » Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:58 pm

I can't enlarge it on computer I'm on now (always something, speakers, etc,) anyhow, it could use a ball detent like jackssmirkingrevenge's design Here, In that post he linked me tothe vogt pattern in a reply.
So without being able to completely see the details, IMO, it should work.

BTW, why aren't you working on this or similar for a contest entry???
Could be fun even if you don't win and gain you respect, a valuable commodity. :roll: 8)
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Unread postAuthor: MountainousDew » Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:00 pm

I can see that you worked real hard on your diagram... just kidding, please don't taze me bro!

Anyway, why not just go with a vortex?
It would work a lot better!
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Unread postAuthor: THUNDERLORD » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:08 pm

MountainousDew wrote:...Anyway, why not just go with a vortex?
It would work a lot better!


A vortex or cloud has more "dead space" than the potential of a "y" shape that fires by suction/pressure.
Besides being even more simple to build IMO.

With a ball detent used like JSR's design (I linked to), it has potential.
I have a husky sandblaster I got for about $10.
I figured if nothing else, the handle makes a cool blow nozzle for (something(?)).
I noticed it maybe is a pre-made BBMG and made a thread, didn't get much response though, and found better components to use since.
I might use it for concept testing sometime (if noone else does first). 8)
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:35 pm

As Thunderlord pointed out an adjustable detent would make your ROF managable and increase power as it gives time for pressure buildup. The magazine should also work nicely.
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Unread postAuthor: maverik94 » Wed Jun 24, 2009 8:19 am

ok, I looked at those links and I couldn't find anything about ball detents, what exactly are those?
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Unread postAuthor: THUNDERLORD » Wed Jun 24, 2009 10:39 am

maverik94 wrote:ok, I looked at those links and I couldn't find anything about ball detents, what exactly are those?


Nice diagram JSR's post top of screen here And explaination. :wink: :D
Hadn't seen that thread linked to myself...Note to self, read JSR's threads completely...

The thing I mentioned interest in testing is whether a ball detent would work better mounted to the end of magazine (before breech),
or in the breech for a "y" shaped design similar to a giant sandblaster. :roll: 8)
EDIT: ...similar to your design also.
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Unread postAuthor: maverik94 » Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:49 am

so, pretty much like a hop-up
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Unread postAuthor: THUNDERLORD » Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:39 pm

maverik94 wrote:so, pretty much like a hop-up


Hmmm...Decisions...I could ask:
"Are you an illiterate 13 year old?"
OR I could go, "well actualy a hop-up goes on the end of the barrel and has a totally different purpose."

OR I could be a D*CK and go, "I changed my mind, this design will NEVER work (for you)"...

It's a Ball Detent....A BaHAHaaaHaaLLL DE..E EE, TINT...Ball detent....
Now go make a time machine or something...[/jke]... 8)
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Unread postAuthor: maverik94 » Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:11 pm

ummm, I'm sorry to say this is the second time I am going to report you to the mods, what I meant was It SERVES THE SAME PURPOSE as a hop-up, which it does.
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Unread postAuthor: THUNDERLORD » Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:35 pm

maverik94 wrote:ummm, I'm sorry to say this is the second time I am going to report you to the mods, what I meant was It SERVES THE SAME PURPOSE as a hop-up, which it does.


*Reply was deleted in respect for jrrdw a great member/mod...***

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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:51 pm

maverik94 and THUNDERLORD,

OK, I sent you both PM's, so there shouldn't be any more problems.
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