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Unread postAuthor: Moonbogg » Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:01 pm

limbeh wrote:MrCrowley / jrrdw: My bad. Edited request.


Also, not to long ago someone got arrested here for possession of an almuninium spudgun, plus closer to me someone destructive tried to get his hands on one - destructive as in has previously blown up several laboratories and caused quite some damage.


Perhaps they tried to get their hands on some Frosted Flakes beforehand as well. Maybe even some milk before going on his well planned destructive rampage.
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Unread postAuthor: limbeh » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:25 pm

Poland spud:

Point 7, while sounding stupid, isn't meant to keep out criminals. Real guns, bombs, knives, metal bars etc have more killing power than any spudgun, and the last 2 are easily available to any criminal.

Those that abuse spudguns & give us all a bad name are usually over-mischievous students who are only interested in destruction. So, we want to make it troublesome enough that 99% of the jokers decide to do something else to satisfy their fetish for destruction instead of make trouble for us. As for the 1% that is sufficiently determined to build one, that sounds like quite a lot of us on the site.......converted into *somewhat* responsible spudders at the end.

Something more universal would obviously be good for all, but I think it should be a community effort, not just the stuff from one area.
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Welcome to Singapore.

The laws are stricter concerning spudguns than anywhere in the West.

Even the Aussies for all they complain have it good compared to us.
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Unread postAuthor: jrrdw » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:36 pm

Create a Wiki account and add it to the legal issue's section. You don't need the moderator's to do it for you.
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:52 am

well I understand your point here.. but you can't decide for yourself who is ok and who is not..

this might work in your closest neighbourhood because you more or less know who is responsible and who is not
...but it won't work here

most of those who use spudguns irresponsibly are not a big problem because they are not patient enough to learn...
their best guns are simple spray and pray combustions
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Unread postAuthor: inonickname » Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:59 am

limbeh wrote:knives, metal bars etc have more killing power than any spudgun


Completely wrong.

I'd rather take a hit from a metal bar than a hit from some of the more powerful cannons here.
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:58 am

As I am compelled to quote when anyone uses the words "Killing power":
Increase my killing power, eh? Let's do it!

... heck, I've been stabbed. I'd rather go through that again than take a hit from even something as modest in energy as what I normally build.

Now, to say that real guns have more potential to kill than ANY spudgun is asking for trouble. There are spudguns out there that make anti-materiel rifles look like pansies.
I believe FEAR once registered ~40,000 ft-lbf with a potato. Stand in the way of that, and you'd be very dead.

limbeh wrote:New SG people spam me with questions because I'm the only guy who can be recognised as a SG person.

Then, simple solution - stop identifying yourself as an SG person. I'm sure it would also help you keep a lower profile with regards your law enforcement.
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Unread postAuthor: Mr.Sandman » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:29 am

limbeh wrote:New SG people spam me with questions because I'm the only guy who can be recognised as a SG person.

Hmm lets read your sig. I wonder if you live in Singapore?
Also on the part where you said dont post what materials you used, i think it would be pretty easy for someone to replicate if not make an exact copy of someones spudgun.
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Unread postAuthor: POLAND_SPUD » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:27 pm

Now, to say that real guns have more potential to kill than ANY spudgun is asking for trouble. There are spudguns out there that make anti-materiel rifles look like pansies.
I believe FEAR once registered ~40,000 ft-lbf with a potato. Stand in the way of that, and you'd be very dead.
yeah, but I don't think that FEAR would be useful in a bank robbery...
HEAL wouldn't be better

I am not saying that it is impossible to build a compact, fully self contained semi-auto air gun that could be used as a substitute of a firearm...

but building it would require access to a machine shop... and if you have access to a good machine shop you might as well use it to produce a firearm, which will perform better as a tool for criminals
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:47 pm

POLAND_SPUD wrote:I am not saying that it is impossible to build a compact, fully self contained semi-auto air gun that could be used as a substitute of a firearm...

but building it would require access to a machine shop... and if you have access to a good machine shop you might as well use it to produce a firearm, which will perform better as a tool for criminals


Let's not forget that airguns were once viable weapons of war, and it is claimed that some high powered rifles are being used by special forces as stealthy close range sniper rifles. In this day and age however, a properly suppressed 22LR rimfire rifle would probably be quieter and definitely be more compact and practical - better to have a pocket full of rounds than a cylinder on your back, ask the IDF ;)

Ragnarok wrote:Then, simple solution - stop identifying yourself as an SG person. I'm sure it would also help you keep a lower profile with regards your law enforcement.


Agreed there, it can be frustrating at times but better err on the side of discretion ;)
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