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Unread postAuthor: Jakal444 » Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:04 am

I need ideas on how to make a simple and cheap valve that requires no machining or anything difficult. Something that can be made in large quantities. It would hold about 10 PSI - 20 PSI and fire foam pellets. It is to be used with half inch pipe.
Diagrams would be helpful.
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Unread postAuthor: frogy » Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:08 am

So the barrel is 1/2"

You can use a 1" Tee and a 1/2" elbow and a 1" to 1/2" bushing...

<img src="http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/9058/barrelsealingtee6cz.png">

It's easy to make other than the diaphragm, someone else can help with that
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Unread postAuthor: Mihlrad » Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:36 am

How would the elbow get inside the tee? Unless its like a microscopic elbow, I just don't see that happening... this is half inch we are talking about here...
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Unread postAuthor: frogy » Thu Jun 29, 2006 11:20 am

<img src="http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/2669/teefits9zl.png">

I checked thoose myself at Lowes with standart NSF-PW parts....

It's a decsending order, so 1/2" should fit in 1" Tee, if not it does fit in 1-1/4"

You just put the Elbow so both the ends are pointing up and put them in the Tee while the top outlet\inlet of the Tee is pointing up....

You have to glue a pipe into the Elbow while it's inside of the Tee, and bore out the stop in the bushing and glue that onto the pipe that's in the elbow and onto the Tee, make sure the elbow is in the center of the Tee and pointing straight up, it's actually really easy to do...
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Unread postAuthor: SpudStuff » Thu Jun 29, 2006 1:35 pm

Ohh impressivly helpful.
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Unread postAuthor: Jakal444 » Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:55 am

Thanks, so how is the diaphragm made?

I came up with this yesterday. Its a manually operated barrel sealing valve. Its still a bit on the complicated side though. Any thoughts?
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The manual barrel sealing face valve. In Between the two discontinued pieces would be a Tee fitting.
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Unread postAuthor: Benny » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:09 am

I like that idea,
but you would need to use like 20 psi or if you want to go higher, then
you need a stronger spring.
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Unread postAuthor: SpudStuff » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:10 am

Is the small pipe the barrel or the chamber? It might not work as a chamber.
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Unread postAuthor: Jakal444 » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:15 am

Benny, like the original post said, i will probably be using it at 20 PSI.

Spudstuff. The smaller pipe is the barrel. The chamber is not shown in the rendering.
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Unread postAuthor: djt » Fri Jun 30, 2006 9:40 am

I like that design. Will there be pressure behind the piston too? Because if there is it's going to be a challenge making the sliding part not leak but still slide.
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Unread postAuthor: pneumaticman » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:08 am

I made a pneumatic gun with a modded sprinkler valve and it doesn't hold any air... when I pump it up it just makes an airhorn sound.
Can anyone tell me what is wrong with it?
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Unread postAuthor: frogy » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:30 am

Your valve isn'ts sealing when your filling it... Take off you lid and clean the inside of the sprinkler to get out PVC shaving and dust, and then use lithium soap\grease to lube the white and black parts, just a little layer of it to help it seal....

DJT you don't make sense, a sliding part that doesn't leak would be hard to make? It's just a coaxial piston without a pilot valve and instead a strong spring and the pistons pulled back by hand...

It'll be easy to make leakproof, just mold a piston out of hot glue and stick O-rings on it...
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Unread postAuthor: djt » Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:38 am

It looks like you pull the piston away from the barrel by hand with that bar with a circle on it. I said it would be hard to seal the bar that slides if the part behind the piston holds pressure. Now that I look at it I dont think it does though.
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Unread postAuthor: )DEMON( » Fri Jun 30, 2006 11:58 am

You want a nerf gun right,so heres a link from nerf haven and they also have a semi auto valve. http://nerfhaven.com/homemade/zero_basicvalve/
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