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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:18 am
by wyz2285
I meant using the flow-stoper on a blowgun

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:44 am
by dahakka
yeah.i just use wyz2285's mechanism in BTB riot gun.☺
i make it because i love both of them(it's look,and its mechanism,)
@wyz your gun alway very nice,but ,if you make them "beauty" as btb gun.they will be much much...much better :lol:

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:59 am
by POLAND_SPUD
no no no!! you got it all wrong - I am the true 3 way god...


...that didn't sound right :D

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:15 am
by wyz2285
:lol: 3-way god? I thought you only have 2 ways :lol:
Joking :wink:
Actually I don´t like saw offs, I always loved rifles, well made long rifles.
But indeed, BTB it´s way better than me in rather mechanism or look.

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:16 am
by Goats spudz
POLAND_SPUD wrote:no no no!! you got it all wrong - I am the true 3 way god...


...that didn't sound right :D
that comment made my day :D

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:54 am
by sharpshooter11000
If it worked properly, that is now my sig :D

Edit: It worked, yay I've got a sig now! Can you change the font size of a quote?

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:37 pm
by Brian the brain
Just retype it..
But indeed, BTB it´s way better than me in rather mechanism or look.
But that would mean you're even uglier than I am?!?!
:D

Anyway..Do whatever you feel like with it,
it has inspired me to do something completely different but only time will tell if it will ever live..

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 6:16 pm
by JDP12
BTB, can you perhaps post a diagram of what you meant with the whole reversing the slide valve idea? If i'm understanding it right, are you saying you fill from the chamber? Just a little confused, and I'd like to figure it out as I may use it on my current gun, flipping the slide valve would make my trigger setup alot easier. thanks

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:29 pm
by Lockednloaded
I think hotwired originally came up with the idea and made a diagram, but I just cannot find it. I've tried it before with a QEV, but I didn't have a constant air source, so I just got progressively weaker shots

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:47 pm
by POLAND_SPUD
I think hotwired originally came up with the idea and made a diagram, but I just cannot find it. I've tried it before with a QEV, but I didn't have a constant air source, so I just got progressively weaker shots
actually it was ragnarok... though I think that PVC_ARSENAL or btrettel built the first gun that operated on this principle

anyway it isn't really that important - the whole idea was like reinventing the wheel - DCVs have been used in PB gun design for years and QEVs are typically used with DCVs too


I really can't think of a way in which this 'idea' could be improved - it's as simple as it gets so essentially you've got to build on top of it and add features... which isn't necessarily a bad thing - have a look at al-xg's experiments with arduino

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:07 pm
by Lockednloaded
POLAND_SPUD wrote:
I think hotwired originally came up with the idea and made a diagram, but I just cannot find it. I've tried it before with a QEV, but I didn't have a constant air source, so I just got progressively weaker shots
actually it was ragnarok... though I think that PVC_ARSENAL or btrettel built the first gun that operated on this principle

anyway it isn't really that important - the whole idea was like reinventing the wheel - DCVs have been used in PB gun design for years and QEVs are typically used with DCVs too


I really can't think of a way in which this 'idea' could be improved - it's as simple as it gets so essentially you've got to build on top of it and add features... which isn't necessarily a bad thing - have a look at al-xg's experiments with arduino
I was actually talking about the backwards slide valve concept, but it's nice to know who to accredit one of my favorite designs to

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:26 am
by Hotwired
POLAND_SPUD wrote:
I think hotwired originally came up with the idea and made a diagram, but I just cannot find it. I've tried it before with a QEV, but I didn't have a constant air source, so I just got progressively weaker shots
actually it was ragnarok... though I think that PVC_ARSENAL or btrettel built the first gun that operated on this principle
The idea Hotwired posted about was this one:

http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/copperh ... t9916.html

And that was operational on a cannon made 9 months earlier.


You're almost certainly thinking of something else since it was before you joined.

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:51 am
by Brian the brain
BTB, can you perhaps post a diagram of what you meant with the whole reversing the slide valve idea? If i'm understanding it right, are you saying you fill from the chamber? Just a little confused, and I'd like to figure it out as I may use it on my current gun, flipping the slide valve would make my trigger setup alot easier. thanks
Sorry Hotwired I had completely missed your links.
It deserved more attention.

In a QEV gun it should look something like this.
(The valve does step 3 by itself, no action required..)

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:04 pm
by JDP12
Ohhh I got it now. The red block right before the slide valve is where the air is inputted right? Makes sense, and seems very efficient. This could work pretty well with my piston valve gun in progress.

Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 10:11 pm
by Gun Freak
I think the red block is supposed to be the slide valve...