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Breaking in Ball Valve

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:51 am
by STHORNE
Hey everybody, I currently have a problem breaking in a 1/4" threaded ball valve I plan on using on my bb/marble rifle. It will be used as an exhaust trigger so it has to be easily opened. I have worked (open/close repeatedly) the s.o.b for days and used every oil and lubricant known to man and it's still as stiff as a board.

Any suggestions?

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:55 am
by SpudFarm
i use grease and it is stiff as hell the first 10 times i open it. and the prob can be that you used oil. ball valves don't like oil they prefer grease

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:58 am
by STHORNE
What type of grease do you recommend?

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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:01 am
by SpudFarm
i don't know what it is called. i just have it in the shop.
the things you put in grease presses and lubricate (?) car suspentions through nipples is what i use. really thick nasty stuff.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:04 am
by STHORNE
Oh, I have used that too, it's not quite as thick as you would think, but it is good old fashion grease. I still got that sh!t on my hands from 2 days ago lol.

any other suggestions?

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:11 am
by SpudFarm
what about yell the shirt of them to get a new? :D

if you bought them in a shop you can try to open them there to see how good they are.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:15 am
by STHORNE
lol, nah...I have already modified it to a point where I can't return it. And I did get the one that opened best when I was shopping for them. But I did bend the handle to make it straight. Maybe there is a kink in it that is rubbing on the brass preventing a easy motion. Ill check it out and keep ya posted :wink:

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:18 am
by SpudFarm
try whatever you think can work :P

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:20 am
by STHORNE
Ok, I bent it back and now nothing is rubbing to a point of it affecting the smoothness of the motion. It seemed to help a little but it's still being stubborn. I'm actually starting to get pissed :x . lol, I'm just gonna drowned the sucker in the grease and work the hell out of it. And maybe.....just maybe....god will shine a little light my way :roll:

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:22 am
by SpudFarm
HAHA :P hope the sky driftes away :D

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:37 am
by Gippeto
W.A.S. here; (I think I read this somewhere, not sure)

Do you have a drill press and vise?

Lube the valve, and then take the handle off.

Pop the lubed up valve in the vise and turn it with the drill press. (not too fast and DO NOT attempt to hold the valve in your hand)

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:39 am
by SpudFarm
ohhhh i was going to say that gippeto! but i am concerned the friction melts the seal and ruins the threads for the handle

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:44 am
by STHORNE
I've done that just taking off the handle and putting the threaded part in a vice. then just manually turning the valve for about 30 minutes non-stop.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:46 am
by ammosmoke
Well, if it is metal, and he doesn't spin it too fast, I think it should be ok. I would be more concerned that he wouldn't be able to line it up again.

EDIT: Well, never mind about the lining up part.

Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:49 am
by STHORNE
ammosmoke wrote:Well, if it is metal, and he doesn't spin it too fast, I think it should be ok.
He's talking about the rubber rings that seal against the actual ball to prevent air from leaking. So if the friction between the two gets hot enough when turning it....it might possibly melt. Understand?