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Ran across these, for combustions.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:24 pm
by jrrdw
Is this a good deal, ran across these doing research on Piezo's.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:42 pm
by sjog
Pay a little more and get two wire set up.
With one wire unit ya gotta modify to turn into two wire for pos. neg.

all that time on this site and you don't know that? you kidding me?

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:49 pm
by MrCrowley
Its less then $3, Does it really matter? Seems a good price to me, though personally I buy <A HREF="http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunting ... ">These</a> as they are awesome and cheap, for me, though its a New Zealand auction site and they don't ship outside the country.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:53 pm
by jrrdw
sjog wrote:Pay a little more and get two wire set up.
With one wire unit ya gotta modify to turn into two wire for pos. neg.

all that time on this site and you don't know that? you kidding me?
Yea, i know that, and no i'm not kidding.

The question is -- Is this a good deal?

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 5:57 pm
by MrCrowley
Well gort sells his for about $18(unless im not seeing something, in that case correct me)and its just the piezo by the looks of it,so yeah why not,what do you have to loose? $3?

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:22 pm
by sjog
I have to pay 13.$ for the two wire and get well insulated leads
MrCrowley gets a pretty cool deal-- two wire
I'm sorry if I've offended you.
Of course it is a good deal!

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:26 pm
by jrrdw
No, not offened, just thought you overlooked the question due to it's simplicity. I do that all the time, lol.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 6:30 pm
by PVC Arsenal 17
I found two interesting things:

Olympian Continuous Ignition Multi-Spark Ignitor
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ ... &noImage=0

Camp Chef Electric Ignitor
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ ... &noImage=0




But yes, those look like a good deal.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:14 pm
by sjog
the camp chief says electric but it looks like a pezeio
Idon't see where a bat. would fit

http://www.appliancefactoryparts.com/ga ... _ign1.html

I bought from these people^ good bat. ignitor

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:27 pm
by Hotwired
Piezos are electric, they produce an electric spark from whacking a crystal.

The continous ignition multi-spark ignitor looks interesting... Is it saying it keeps sparking when the trigger is down?

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 7:47 pm
by jrrdw
Hotwired wrote:Piezos are electric, they produce an electric spark from whacking a crystal.

The continous ignition multi-spark ignitor looks interesting... Is it saying it keeps sparking when the trigger is down?
What do you use to whack it with? And how does that make eletricity?

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 8:02 pm
by pbmann123
You "whack" it with a mechanical hammer. As your press down, it compresses a spring then a sear slips, and the hammer "whacks" the crystal.

The crystal is symmetrical and as mechanical energy is transferred to the crystal the line of symmetry creates a positive side and a negative side of the crystal. The electrodes are connected at 90 degrees to the line of symmetry at the farthest point from it and this translates to a few tens of thousands of volts. Also the orientation of the mechanical energy imput doesn't matter.

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 10:44 pm
by jrrdw
pbmann123 wrote:You "whack" it with a mechanical hammer. As your press down, it compresses a spring then a sear slips, and the hammer "whacks" the crystal.

The crystal is symmetrical and as mechanical energy is transferred to the crystal the line of symmetry creates a positive side and a negative side of the crystal. The electrodes are connected at 90 degrees to the line of symmetry at the farthest point from it and this translates to a few tens of thousands of volts. Also the orientation of the mechanical energy imput doesn't matter.
Whats the hammer made of?

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:08 pm
by mark.f
It can be made of any hard material. The charge is created by the process of piezoelectricity. This is the phenomenon that occurs then impact or deformation of a crystal having certain piezoelectric properties, (quartz is a good example), creates a voltage across the face of the crystal. A very small deformation of the crystal creates a very high voltage which creates the spark. Piezoelectric actuators work on the reverse principle, moving humongous loads thousandths of inches when voltage is applied. Good for micro-adjustment.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:12 pm
by LGM
Looks like a really good deal.
Does anybody know where to get the igniters from grill lighters?