Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:36 am
lol MrC I read your comments and it seems that your GF must be pretty good at brainwashing
0_oMrCrowley wrote:Women don't 'owe' men for the engineering industry, with the likes of scientists such as Marie Curie who knows how much further we may be in the field of engineering if women had equal opportunity.
I think this debate is arguing different things. Some of these arguments about things women do that piss you off. I'm trying to argue about equal opportunity and the more dominant position us males have in society. But when I say males are dominant, you guys are thinking about in the bedroom where women get to 'control' sex. I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about in society. Who cares if women get to control sex, just find another girl who wants what you've got
In a long term relationship, women will withhold sex to indicate their displeasure or when they want something. This isn't a stereotype. Have you ever tried to refuse sex to a woman you're in a relationship with?Women getting to 'control' sex isn't inequality either. We can do the same if we so pleased, we just happen to have a lower tolerance and patience for that kind of thing. It's no use in blaming women if their behaviour is innately different to ours.
Quotas for everything or for nothing then. There should be equal representation of women on garbage trucks, in mine shafts, in fire stations... equality is just that.Thus, quotas may not be a bad thing in some cases.
The example I gave was a question of where do you draw the line. Why do you wish to protect a woman's provocation? The fact that rape is against the law is protecting female privilege, because if a woman had no choice with whom to have sex with she would have no power at all.I meant that that specific generalisation about women was more likely to be incorrect than the alternative hypothesis (that rape is more to do with the behaviour of men than what women choose to wear). I think you know you set up a strawman in your second sentence there. I didn't argue anything about women complaining when men stare. I was arguing that what women wear is not to blame for them being raped. Even if they are naked, in no way should that justify them being raped. If a women is naked, are they more likely to be raped? Probably, but that doesn't mean the rape is justified any more than if they were fully clothed.
Lets say you have a group of people with equal qualifications, men, women, white, asian, black, fat, thin, attractive, munters, old, young... you have to chose one, and all the others will think it's unfair - how are you going to legislate to make that choice "fair"?Even though women are under-represented in some industries, but are theoretically capable of performing just as well as men in that industry, I don't think less-qualified women should be chosen over more-qualified men to fill a quota. All I agree with is that if you have two people, a man and a woman, of equal qualifications and experience, the man shouldn't be chosen over the woman because of her gender. How do you select one of the two when they have equal qualifications and experience? Well I guess that can be left down to impressions and personality and other conveniences.
I honestly can say that i have, i meet a girl at a party she didn't wanna do it then, later i found out she goes to trade school the same day i go. I meet up with she was really wanting it asked if i wanted to, I looked into her eyes said not today baby, Dam the look in her eyes absolutely shocked. Didn't last long though went movie same night and i slammed her in my car .jackssmirkingrevenge wrote: This isn't a stereotype. Have you ever tried to refuse sex to a woman you're in a relationship with?
jrrdw wrote:Maybe we should invite Jerry Springer into this debait.
Careful....10 will get you 20!Crna Legija wrote:one bad part of it was shes 15 while i was 19
Crna Legija wrote:I honestly can say that i have, i meet a girl at a party she didn't wanna do it then, later i found out she goes to trade school the same day i go. I meet up with she was really wanting it asked if i wanted to, I looked into her eyes said not today baby, Dam the look in her eyes absolutely shocked.
See... that's how you avoid the friend zone. People want what they can't have.Didn't last long though went movie same night and i slammed her in my car
http://www.aifs.gov.au/cfca/pubs/factsh ... index.htmlone bad part of it was shes XX while i was 19.
"Who are we?"
"Women!"
"What do we want?"
"We don't know!"
"When do we want it?"
"Now!"
Well....real life is really quite different from the version taught in school.MrCrowley wrote:I had no idea you guys have quotas like that for women.
well here in poland it wouldn't be a problem - age of consent @ 15one bad part of it was shes 15 while I was 19
ohh I see - well what can I say.. hmm harden the f### up and you'll get someif I currently had a girlfriend
... especially considering the fact that teachers are disproportionately female.velocity3x wrote:Well....real life is really quite different from the version taught in school.
Here are sometips - given the notions you seem to have about the opposite sex, it looks like you'll need themohh I see - well what can I say.. hmm harden the f### up and you'll get some
heh I think I have learned all of that on my ownHere are some tips - given the notions you seem to have about the opposite sex, it looks like you'll need them
You've got an MA?Damn one of these
http://theabsolute.net/misogyny/sdifref.html
was used as reference in my MA thesis.
I don't live in America, remember. Things aren't the same down here in NZ (as far as I'm aware we don't have enforced women quotas)Well....real life is really quite different from the version taught in school.
Hahaha yeah that must look pretty weird!Currently comparing and contrasting page 282 and 283 of this thread.
that sounded slightly condescending, you know ?MrCrowley wrote:You've got an MA?Damn one of these
http://theabsolute.net/misogyny/sdifref.html
was used as reference in my MA thesis.
In what subject?