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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:06 pm
by SpudBlaster15
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:44 am
by BC Pneumatics
I don't think he was talking about using the Fe2O3 (presumably) as a catalyst, just as a better high temperature oxidizer.
Having actually made both, I do prefer the black powder. (Which is more dangerous to work with, though neither fuel is unstable)
I have cast kilos upon kilos of kno3/sucrose mix, and have never had any significant amount (Nothing more than a few grams dripping onto the burner), ignite during the process.
I have had a couple hand packed black powder rocket CATOs, but I have a perfect record since I started using a proper press. *Knock on wood*
Shotting anything on fire outta' a spudgun is a felony. Don't do it, even if the nice officers from Vegas suggest it.
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:46 am
by SpudBlaster15
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:52 am
by spudthug
quit hijacking this take it to pms
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:02 pm
by SpudBlaster15
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:33 pm
by spudthug
u know what f*ck u sb15 all u do is flame poeple ur an effing idiot
edit: someone lock this dam topic before sb15 flames someone again
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:40 pm
by SpudBlaster15
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:45 pm
by spudthug
i didn't spell anything wrong idiot...so what if i use u and ur....everyone knows what it means......god i bet ur like 8 years old and u ask ur dad for comebacks then u dont know how to spell it so he comes and flames people for u.....
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:07 pm
by SpudBlaster15
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:05 pm
by spudthug
you spelled your wrong.....so umm there....plus see that red button that looks like an exclamation point?? i pressed it.....
You and you immaturity are
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 2:25 pm
by cannon freak
Spudthug he's not flaming, just stating the truth. As for hijacking the fourms, this is a discussion of rockets as I recall is it not?
hmm, I was always under the impression that black powder was tuff to pack into a good mould, guess I was wrong.
I still prefer KnO3/ sucrose myself, mainly because its so cheap to make.
Has anyone had any luck with ammonium nitrate? The different recipes I tried all resulted in pretty crappy propellant, from what Ive learned you apparently need to phase stabilize it, Im still unsure of what that means.
Cannon Freak
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 4:32 pm
by PCGUY
Please refer to the last people who got into a pissing contest, and reconsider your thoughts about this argument.
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:19 pm
by BC Pneumatics
SpudBlaster15, a quote come to mind.
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
'Spudthug' appears to be a complete moron, so just leave him be.
And indeed, the KNO3/Sucrose mix seems to fall about 200*C short of the decomposition temp of Fe2O3.
I have yet to have a KNO3/Sucrose CATO, although I have blown out a couple nozzles. (When experimenting with new types)
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:31 pm
by paaiyan
So I've been interested in this kinf of thing for a while. Well, anything that goes boom or spews flame really... Moving on, where do you got your supplies. I know the ingredients for both black powder and KNO3/sucrose but the only thing I know how to get is the sucrose. I know KNO3 can be obtained from farm supply stores but I think a 19-year-old buying a 20 lb bag of KNO3 for no apparent reason would raise questions.
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 5:35 pm
by BC Pneumatics
Actually, a lot of 'farm stores' don;t sell KNO3 anymore, for fear of terrorism. (Especially in Oklahoma)
KNO3 is sold at BCARMS.com
