boyntonstu wrote:Ragnarok wrote:AGAIN, PLEASE STOP QUOTING MY ENTIRE POSTS.
Seriously.
BoyntonStu - Please, stop it. There has been absolutely no need in any of these cases to quote the entire posts. A couple of lines from most of them would have been more than sufficient.
If you don't feel up to cutting down the posts to just the relevant parts, then please go for the "@Ragnarok" approach.
But actually just cutting down a post as appropriate is no great challenge. Observe, as I demonstrate the skill below:
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I agree with you that I added an element, breech loading, simply because I just thought about it this morning.
So you
are just on a coaxial bashing rant?
We didn't need a topic for you to tell us why you don't like a certain kind of cannon, just like we don't need a topic for me to say why I don't build hybrids. If everyone made a topic to say "I don't like marbles as ammunition" or "I think QEVs are the mutt's nuts", we'd have a lot of very pointless topics.
Telling us something new and relevant to us is fine. If you can conclusively tell us why a co-axial sacrifices a notable amount of performance in an apples to apples situation - which I am taking as the chamber volume being identical, the pressure being identical and the barrel being identical, then you've got a discussion that's worth having.
The fact that coaxials can't be easily breech-loaded is
not news. Unless you have an advancement to make on that fact, then there's no point in discussing it.
If all you're here to do is tell us you don't like something... well, whoopdedoo. Nobody likes everything. You've got your reasons for not liking it. Other people have their reasons for liking it. You can't say your reasons are right for them.
"If you wish to throw away force, acceleration, and fps, build a coax. "
Your point being? Velocity is the integral of the acceleration with respect to time and acceleration is directly proportional to force. And, although you didn't originally mention it, energy is the integral of force with respect to distance.
They are all inherently linked. And for a projectile of a given mass in a barrel of given dimensions ("apples to apples", remember), they are all related to each other by a strict mathematical relationship.
So, under our apples to apples discussion, if one changes, all the others will change in kind, according to the laws of motion.
Can force, acceleration, velocity and energy change when you've got a given barrel, chamber volume, pressure and projectile? Of course - take GGDT, take any cannon, then halve the valve flow coefficient.
Less air flowing through the valve, less pressure, less force, less acceleration, less velocity, less energy.
Basically, what this discussion comes down to is "Can you conclusively say that a coaxial's valve design is less efficient than a barrel sealer's valve design, and why?"
Anything else is not an apples to apples discussion on the subject matter of force/acceleration/velocity/energy.
EDIT: Spelking mistoks.