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Coaxial piston valve problem

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:27 pm
by Tom
I have some problems with my piston valve, it´s a coaxial barrel sealing. The problem is that when I charge the valve and let the pilot air go the piston wont move(just a little bit). What can be the problem, i had some things in mind like; charge from the pilotspace instead of the chamberspace, more air presure. Then I'm wondering could the problem be lying by the spring, the spring is not very strong but just good enouch to make a good seal.
GR.Tom
EDIT: I'm using PVC 32MM, the piston is made from melted glue sticks and a sheet of PVC.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 12:38 pm
by hi
im want to laugh. your idea of possibly "charging from the pilot space" is exactly the problem. you must charge from the pilot space or it wont seal. you could try all day to fill from the chamber and it would never work.

try filling from the pilot area and i can almost garentee that will fix the problem.

good luck.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:48 pm
by clide
hi wrote:im want to laugh. your idea of possibly "charging from the pilot space" is exactly the problem. you must charge from the pilot space or it wont seal. you could try all day to fill from the chamber and it would never work.
Unless he has a spring...which he does.

Sounds to me like your piston has too much flow past it or you pilot valve isn't big enough. What are you using to vent the pilot area?

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:55 pm
by Tom
Whel gentleman, my piston seals olmostly perfect with some vaseline. I just made a new barrel inside because there would be 3 MM space between barrel and housing(not ideal for a coaxial :D ). Tomorrow I will test the valve filling from the pilot space.
GR.Tom

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:00 pm
by Brian the brain
Clide is right.
To fix this problem, get a bigger ( or faster) exhaust valve and make sure the piston has a very narrow fit.
Then fill from the pilot side.( better, although not neccesary when using a spring)

32 mm indicates you are using regular ( thickwalled perhaps) pvc.

This stuff WILL blow up! maybe not the first time, but it defenitely will.
Order pressre rated pvc and dump the normal stuff!!!

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:13 pm
by Tom
The man that helped me at the shop told me that the pipe was pressure rated to a maximum of 80 PSI(I wont need more). I will order a better pipe if it isn't working good.
GR.Tom

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:24 pm
by Brian the brain
If it isn't working well, it will blow up.
Sending scrapnel into your face or possibly your nuts!!...You want to risk that??

You can order ( in holland) at www.bouwplastics.nl
I believe they have the biggest stock and best price.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:37 pm
by Tom
@BTB
What is the shippings price, i can't found it at the website.
GR.Tom