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ball valve vs. sprinkler valve

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:43 am
by pmalone
Which would be more effective and have more air flow: a 1.5" ball valve or 1" modded sprinkler valve?

Thanks in advance

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:48 am
by paaiyan
The ball valve may have a higher air flow, but the sprinkler valve will be more effective. The sprinkler valve opens nearly instantaneously and so there will be a much more efficient use of air.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:59 am
by starman
paaiyan wrote:The ball valve may have a higher air flow, but the sprinkler valve will be more effective. The sprinkler valve opens nearly instantaneously and so there will be a much more efficient use of air.
I concur. The 1.5" ball valve is a fairly hefty beast thus making it even slower to actuate manually.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:20 am
by newbmatic
ball valve may have better air flow and is probably cheaper , but releases way to slow and especially if you're going to use a 1.5" one. the sprinkler valve may be a little more costly and may not have as great air flow, but it opens extremely quick.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:22 am
by paaiyan
Sprinkler valves aren't that expensive anyway. Heck, look at the piston designs on here as well, they're extremely fast if made correctly, very cheap, and much smaller.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:30 am
by Biopyro
Depends what you mean by "effective" really. If you have a very long barrel 1.5m+ then yeah a BV might not be so bad, but otherwise definately go for a sprinkler valve.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:20 pm
by iknowmy3tables
well in an oversized system with a giant chammber, and super greased valve, a BV is much better however i you like guns you can hold while firing a sprinkler valve is better

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:22 pm
by paaiyan
I still say a piston is about as good as it gets.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:34 pm
by Biopyro
A piston is much better, but beariung in mind the OP has just one post, they may not have the budget or skill necessary

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:50 pm
by paaiyan
Budget? Pistons can be the cheapest kind.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:18 pm
by Biopyro
If you can't make one, then you have to buy one, I believe a 1" stinger valve is about $45, whereas a sprinkler is about $10, I guess if he had the option he would have asked about that too.
@pmalone: do you feel confident enough to build a piston valve?

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:19 pm
by paaiyan
Maybe he didn't know it was an option. I think he should take a look at pistons, they'll take some practice to get a process down right, but I think it'd be more satisfying.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:33 pm
by TurboSuper
The problem is that your projectile will be long gone by the time the BV opens to max porting. Sprinkler valves all the way.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:22 pm
by sirspuddest
Sprinkler valve wins, always.

After using a ball valve gun for about a month, I just ditched it. It was hard to turn (bruised my hand), slow, ineffeicient, expensive (a good sized ball valve is easily almost as expensive as a sprinkler valve), and very difficult and awkward to use.

Ideally, I would just use a QEV or piston, though.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:53 pm
by pmalone
thanks for all the help

how much of an advantage is there to using a piston valve over a sprinkler valve? and what is a good tutorial to follow to make one