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QEV modding

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:53 pm
by Daltonultra
Well, I found a spring I think will work right for my QEV, now I just need to know what size hole I need to drill through the piston to allow it to pressurize from the chamber side without rendering it unfireable.

It's a 1/2" QEV from Fastenal

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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:13 pm
by Lentamentalisk
Just start with a tinsy hole, and move up from there if it doesn't work fast enough for you.

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:21 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Essentially the important thing is that the rate of flow past the piston is lower than the rate of flow through your pilot.

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:57 pm
by Eddbot
while we're on the subject, i've got a QEV like this, when filled from the pilot, the air slips past on the slanted edges

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if i turned it around like this, and added a spring, would i even need to put a hole in the piston to fill from the chamber?

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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 9:07 pm
by psycix
if i turned it around like this, and added a spring, would i even need to put a hole in the piston to fill from the chamber?
No edd, but it would let alot of air through on pilotting.

Dalton, I would start with the smallest hole possible. Like a needle.
Maybe you should PM brian the brain.
He is the one who knows most about this.

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:23 am
by Daltonultra
psycix wrote:
if i turned it around like this, and added a spring, would i even need to put a hole in the piston to fill from the chamber?
No edd, but it would let alot of air through on pilotting.
I think it would also tear up the edges of the piston really badly. That is exactly how mine looks inside, and there is a plastic sealing ring inside the top. If I reversed the piston like Edd suggests, the edge of the piston would hit that ring, and over time it would shred it.
psycix wrote:Dalton, I would start with the smallest hole possible. Like a needle.
Maybe you should PM brian the brain.
He is the one who knows most about this.
I'll do that. Failing his reply, I'll start at 1/32". I believe I have one in my model drill kit.

Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:29 pm
by biged
I have made replacement rubber pistons for these valves.
I used a piece of 1/4" rubber and cut it the same diameter. Beveled the edges slightly. Drilled two 1/16th inch holes on either side, with a groove cut across the bottom on the pilot side. Works lightning fast even at pressures up to 250 psi. Has only a minimum bleed through on the pilot with the groove cut.

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If you do not get the new rubber piston just rite, it will turn on, but not turn off at higher pressures. Took several attempts to get it rite.

I use it as a relay valve for a bb flamethrower.
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 6:21 pm
by Daltonultra
That's a great idea, I may have to try that before I go drilling the factory piston...

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:37 am
by psycix
The factory pistons can be bought separately. They cost just a few bucks.
So dont freak out if you think you've destroyed your QEV. :)

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:42 pm
by Daltonultra
I can make new ones out of a hockey puck anyways. $1.05 a hockey puck and twenty minutes in the garage gets me two pistons, I figure.