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Best piston design for a semi auto valve

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:01 pm
by Gun Freak
I am building a semi auto and I need to know what type of piston would be best. EQ hole, check valve, o-rings or what, it will be 3/4 with 1/2 in porting. Thanks, Gun Freak.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:21 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Are you feeding through the chamber or pilot side?

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:24 pm
by Gun Freak
Pilot, through a homemade 3 way with 1/4" ports probably with around 140 psi.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:28 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
A tight fitting piston will suffice, no need for an equalisation hole if you haven't fitted o-rings.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:32 pm
by Gun Freak
Alright, I'll try a wooden dowel sanded down to size, the chamber is only about 3 inches of half inch pvc so it should fill fast right?

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:33 pm
by clemsonguy1125
Remember Techs said his sealed without orings so you may still need a EQ hole

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:34 pm
by Gun Freak
He made his to tight tolerances with his drill press, I will make mine a less tight fit than his so it can equilize, or maybe a tight fit like his with an EQ.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:48 pm
by clemsonguy1125
Yeah Id make one like his if you can

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:50 pm
by Gun Freak
I think one with a looser fit withough an EQ would be more efficient than a tight fit with an EQ because the EQ has a higher flow than the space around the loose piston.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:51 pm
by clemsonguy1125
I disagree, Tech piloted a 2inch chamber, 1inch port, with a blowgun, and had great performance

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 4:58 pm
by ramses
An O-Ringed piston with check valve might be the best option. It would open the piston quickly, and allow fast flow to the chamber to fill. A 1/4" check valve would provide pretty much maximum flow.

Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:09 pm
by Technician1002
clemsonguy1125 wrote:Remember Techs said his sealed without orings so you may still need a EQ hole
Mine sealed when it had a small amount of grease on it. This prevented filling from the chamber without the EQ port. The rising chamber pressure opens the valve without the port.

The piston was close tolerance, but not tight. It closed by gravity for filling. No spring needed. It did need standing on end to start filling.

Close fit, but not tight.

The valve seat:OD ratio is a close ratio. Piston OD is 1.5 inch. Valve seat seal is 1.25 inches. There is only 1/8 inch difference in diameters.

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