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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:57 pm
by Gun Freak
All sprinkler valve I've used honked, what if you arrange the design so it is filled from the pilot side?

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:58 pm
by clemsonguy1125
no im filling this from the chamber side

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:01 pm
by Gun Freak
Why? Filling from the pilot would prevent honking.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:02 pm
by clemsonguy1125
no it wouldnt, dont you fill supernova from chamber side

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:02 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Gun Freak wrote:Why? Filling from the pilot would prevent honking.
Filling from the chamber side with enough flow will also prevent honking.

Also, having the air feed into the pilot means the valve will open much less quicker and the design will waste a lot more air, which might be a concern if it is a portable design.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:03 pm
by Gun Freak
clemsonguy1125 wrote:no it wouldnt, dont you fill supernova from chamber side
Yes, but I never said it didn't honk :wink:
Also, having the air feed into the pilot means the valve will open much less quicker and the design will waste a lot more air, which might be a concern if it is a portable design.
True dat, scratch it.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:03 pm
by clemsonguy1125
i plan to have it adjustable between shop air, and propane

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:07 pm
by Gun Freak
clemsonguy1125 wrote:i plan to have it adjustable between shop air, and propane
I might get a propane setup myself, for my bbmg. Let me know how that goes...

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:07 pm
by clemsonguy1125
I will, but itll be a while before i build the gun, much less hook up a propane setup

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:09 pm
by Gun Freak
Ah ok, not like you... normally you plan a gun and build it the next day, then spit out a few more by the week's end :roll: :D

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:20 pm
by ramses
I will fill in for Poland spud and suggest a 3 way valve as the pilot. Or a 4 way, which would allow you to fill from the chamber.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:26 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
ramses wrote:I will fill in for Poland spud and suggest a 3 way valve as the pilot. Or a 4 way, which would allow you to fill from the chamber.
With a 3 way, the air feed is blocked off when the pilot is opened so no need for chamber filling. Hooking up the pilot side to a pop-off should technically allow you to retain the full-auto function.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:29 pm
by clemsonguy1125
Yeah yeah yeah, I build a couple guns a month sometimes but they are usually cheap but this a bigger and harder build so I'll spend a while planning it and I'd use a 3 way but there expensive and I've never really under stood them. Also do they work like piston valves or diaphram valves, and they are triggered electronically arent they.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:31 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
clemsonguy1125 wrote:I'd use a 3 way but there expensive and I've never really under stood them. Also do they work like piston valves or diaphram valves, and they are triggered electronically arent they.
All you need to know here.

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:44 pm
by clemsonguy1125
Thanks I'll read that, should explain a lot.