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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2011 6:23 pm
by al-xg
Doesn't matter what triggers it, just apply a higher voltage...
Care to elaborate ?
Same as I did for the failed 14mm automatic airgun inovative design, cast the whole thing in a block of epoxy.
The axial O-ring seal design is just shite, so I just submerge the whole thing in epoxy.
I should be able to provide a detailed explanation on how to make a cheapo solenoid valve 60bar compatible in a few days time, I'll try and make sure it does actually work before I say anymore.
Slightly PUIofGlenfiddich but I'll most probably edit thjat out...
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 5:47 pm
by wyz2285
dewey-1 I almost finished the circuit, only some parts of the sketch I didn´t understand: battery input and firing mode selection, where should I weld them?
here are some photos about the circuit.
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:42 pm
by dewey-1
wyz;
Do not power that up yet. Something is wrong with what you have built, compared to the parts layout that I did.
Also take another in focus picture with the 555 ICs installed without a flash. Like the second picture.
It looks like you have parts as installed from bottom wiring side.
Your parts layout should match the component side or the silkscreened side.
See the previous post with edited names for all three images.
Here is a view as if you were wiring it.
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:51 am
by wyz2285
Maybe I have made it from the bottom, I was following the sketch with green lines
I thought it was the bottom view...
But I think I have connected everything correctly
even through it´s some how different from the bottom view
I can post a picture about the bottom wiring too, but probably won´t help
big confusion down there
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:01 am
by dewey-1
wyz;
Please do a picture of the bottom side.
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:20 am
by wyz2285
Ok, here it is
Hope you can see something
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:52 am
by dewey-1
Sorry to say that I can see plenty of problems!
You need to follow my parts layout and bottom view wiring!
If you use an Ohm meter you will find that pin 1 of ICs is not battery negative or ground. That is only one problem.
Basically you have this on ICs:
pin 1 is pin 8
pin 2 is pin 7
pin 3 is pin 6
pin 4 is pin 5
pin 5 is pin 4
pin 6 is pin 3
pin 7 is pin 2
pin 8 is pin 1
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:58 am
by wyz2285
how? I checked the sketch a lot of times
ok I just remove them all and remake it
just follow the latest bottom view right?
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:14 am
by POLAND_SPUD
just follow the latest bottom view right?
Yeah, but since it's bottom view you orient the parts according to
bottom view (eventhough they are on the other side of the board)
damn it's kind of hard to express properly but I hope you understand
here is what it should look like (seen from the top) :
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:19 am
by dewey-1
In this application of a single sided proto circuit board, the components are placed on the non foil side. (foil side meaning no square pads)
The three jumpers as indicated, go on the top or the component side.
The square pad pin on each IC indicates pin 1.
All your switch wires, solenoid and battery wires are inserted from top side.
If you place all parts as indicated on top component side then flip board over and then wire as per bottom view. This view:
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:32 am
by wyz2285
hum... I got you point...
Gonna try it now
so I place the components fro top using the blacck/white sketch then weld them following the black/red wire sketch
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:34 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Right you are
mods have been alerted.
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:04 am
by killerbanjo
Haha i was just about to do the same thing on another thread
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:19 am
by dewey-1
wyz;
Here are the schematic and perfboard layouts you requested for semi-auto only mode.
Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:29 am
by wyz2285
Thank you
I will try to go buy the parts tomorrow after school