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need a high flow pilot valve

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:24 pm
by singularity
alright i recently made a 1 inch piston valve that is piloted with a 1/4 ball valve. it opens fast and has way more power than it needs for the task it was built for. this is the third version of the valve and i think i finally fixed all the problems (leaking pistons, bad exhaust port seals, shattered pistons, ect). the problem is this valve is built for a sniper, and a ball valve isn't a like a real trigger. now the real problem is the fact that a normal blowgun (the chrome kind with the red grip) just doesn't have the flow rate of a ball valve. it empties the pilot and chamber instead of just the pilot. so my question is... is there any sort of high flow spring loaded valve similar in dimensions to a blow gun (or smaller)?

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:28 pm
by noname
You can modify the blowgun and get almost double the flow, or you can invest in a pressure washer handle (too expensive, in my opinion). You could try one of those pressure dish washing blowgun things restaurants use in the kitchens, I've been thinking about trying one for a while.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:31 pm
by singularity
is double the flow rate of a blow gun close to the flow rate of a 1/4 ball valve? technically the blow guns my dads and im just gonna barrow it... i don't know if he'd want me to do that

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:36 pm
by turbohacker
Buy a new one, their cheap.
You could make your ball valve spring loaded and trigger it with a pin of some sort.
You could also accuate the piston with a smaller piston that is accuated by the blow gun.

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:34 pm
by Velocity
Get a 1/4" QEV from McMaster ($11.90, part #6646K34). This version has a 1/4" inlet, 1/4" outlet, and 3/8" exhaust. Next, hook up a regular blowgun to it. Now you have the best of both worlds.

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:07 pm
by singularity
sweet thanks

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:13 pm
by noob of noobs
You could make your ball valve spring loaded and trigger it with a pin of some sort.
Got any designs for spring loaded ball valves?

P.S. Wouldn't a sprinkler valve work as a decent pilot?

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:47 am
by singularity
<a href="http://www.sentex.net/~mwandel/cannon/a ... ">heres</a> a site i found a spring loaded valve on

and a sprinkler valve wouldn't work because the tee i built the valve in is only 1inch, besides that would mean the pilot valve would actually be larger that the real valve. the idea was to keep this small and compact, a sprinkler valve isn't exactly what i would consider compact

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:15 am
by turbohacker
maybe acuate with something like this...
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/d ... mber=91009[/list]

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:02 am
by FreakyShotGlass
Try and find a micro solenoid valve. I used a tiny 3/4in sprinkler valve on two of my guns and they are fast as and tiny.

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:12 am
by turbohacker
Were?
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:14 am
by FreakyShotGlass
I got mine off eBay, try there. Or just a hardware store.

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:13 pm
by singularity
3/4 sprinkler valves are still to big for my requirements. i might try a micro solenoid valve but i would have to order them covertly, my dad doesn't trust eBay

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:26 pm
by frankrede
turbohacker wrote:maybe acuate with something like this...
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/d ... mber=91009[/list]
Have you ever even used a spray gun to paint?
That would not work well as a pilot

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:40 pm
by rednecktatertosser
If you want a high flow pilot then use a 1/4" QEV piloted by a pistol grip blowgun. or the blowgun by its self