Twitches Science Project V.2. "SNCA"

Boom! The classic potato gun harnesses the combustion of flammable vapor. Show us your combustion spud gun and discuss fuels, ratios, safety, ignition systems, tools, and more.
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Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:16 am

Well ever since V.1 "Whompah Stompah" blew up from an attack of MAPP gas, I decided to rebuild it. V.2 is finished. I gave it the name "Spray and Click Affair" because thats basically what it is :lol: Anyway its just a basic cannon, piezo lighter and a fan. I screwed everything together so it wont separate after every shot, and epoxied it all up.

Had to give a demo today so that went good. Got 150+m with a cut up rubber ball and it gave me good marks just because it outshot the ballista a kid entered.

My problem is this. Being an avid shooter I know what a sonic boom sounds like and my cannon made one. Normally at most combustions make 30-40 psi and my c:b ration is a bit off bout 3:1 and despite the ball being wedged in tight barely halfway down the barrel but it still made a sonic boom.

How is this possible?
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Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:33 am

my guess is that the gas expanding is the sonic boom and not the rubber ball it self.
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Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:04 am

Thats what I thought thanks man :P
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Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:22 am

you got to make a potato cannon for a science project. nice.
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Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:29 am

They let you build a gun for a science project in australia? Are they illegal where you live?
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Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:44 am

youre really lucky to have the excuse to build a cannon as a school project! As hi said, its probably just the gas, not the projectile(unfortunately!). Good luck for it, and I hope you get good marks 8)
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How sure are you that you broke the sound barrier?
Chronograph?
I doubt that a run of the mill cannon with a bad C/B and a poorly fitted ammo would break the sound barrier.
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The ammo fitted pretty tightly and Ive grown up around guns so I do know what sound something makes when it breaks the sound barrier Frank. And the cops let me off lightly just because I had an official note from the school saying I could make one.
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Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:49 pm

Not a chance that you broke the sound barrier.

You can not tell how fast a round is going by just the sound. A very experienced shooter might be able to tell after firing many rounds of a particular caliber and varying loads and chrono'ing every shot. But, that knowledge would be completely useless when it came to a round as different as a "rubber ball". He would have to go through the entire process with the new round; multiple shots, varrying loads and a chrony, to learn what supersonic sounds like for the new round.

A spud gun does not have to be supersonic to make a hell of a lot of noise. A large CB ratio will make the gun much louder than it would be with a more reasonable CB. The sound you heard was nothing more than the "bang" of the gun itself.
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Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:12 am

I never said it was the ball. I was just confused about how gases at 30-40 psi could break the sound barrier. Once again I will say in bold I know it wasnt the rubber ball I was just confused about how gases at 30-40 psi could break the sound barrier. I know Im not making much sense but I have personal reasons for it.

I just didnt think 30-40 psi would break the sound barrier by itself.
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Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:42 am

You didn't break the sound barrier.
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Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:57 am

i agree with modder i highly doubt that you broke the sound barrier.... sorry to break your bubble lol
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Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:30 am

30-40 psi is 15-25 psi more than the atmosphere, with that sort of impetus given the right conditions there's no reason why gasses shouldn't accelerate past the speed of sound.
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Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:43 am

hmm i guess but then again i dont really get what you just said... so if i slightly understand what you just said and the gasses did reach the speed of sound isnt that what DDT is?
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Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:27 am

DDT? Isn't that a pesticide :?

Gasses reaching the speed of sound will make a sonic crack, that's why explosions are so friggin loud ;)
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