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home made gas ram

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:21 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
I normally advise against making your own springer rifles from scratch, but nothing wrong with modifying an existing one. As some of you might know, gas ram rifles replace the spring with a piston riding in a pre-compressed cylinder, they are available commercially but you can make your own and here's how it's been done (not by me)

Project Homemade Gas Ram part 1 and part 2

Needs a bit of metalworking skill but it should be well within the capabilites of many on this forum :)

The most obvious benefit is being able to vary the power easily by adjusting the pre-compression, as well a shorter recoil stroke.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:00 am
by us sniper
Here is more information about the springer rifles.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... soft:en-US

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:35 am
by Redcoat
would it be possible to make one of these using a pneumatic setup i.e. have a chamber and then say a ball valve and then the piston inside a cylinder on that?

-thanks.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:52 am
by wannabie
i think it probably would work becuase i was experimenting today with a corck with a screw through it so i can shoot 12 gram co2 cartridges by puncturing the end.

BTW where did the spellcheck button run off to.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:03 am
by Redcoat
when you say you were experimenting do you mean using a the cork as a gas ram?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:14 am
by wannabie
yes i had the cork in a peice of 1" Tap Riser now all i need is a 1" to 3/4" adapeter and a 3/4" barrel and some 12 gram co2 cartriges

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:23 am
by Redcoat
cool how well did it work?

i dont know if this will work but i am going to take a part a bike pump and use the piston in that as my piston and then the ball valve on one end and the barrel on the other.Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:29 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Imperialist1 wrote:would it be possible to make one of these using a pneumatic setup i.e. have a chamber and then say a ball valve and then the piston inside a cylinder on that?
Talk to Hotwired, I think he had made a prototype along these lines.

The way you drew it, you can only get as much pressure developed by the moving piston as there is behind it, so it wouldn't give better performance. What you want is a bigger piston propelling the compression piston, like so:

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:31 am
by Redcoat
if i had say a 1.5" larger chamber to a 1/4" compression chamber to a 1/8" barrel and the chamber for the air is about 2.5" by about 23".

Oh and if i went with my design from before how well would it work?

thanks.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:35 am
by wannabie
Imperialist1 wrote:cool how well did it work?
well the cork wasnt tight in the chamber but i could put a hole in 1/2" plaster board.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:39 am
by Redcoat
that is awesome.I hope to just put a hole through paper at ten metres so i can have my own little airgun range.Im not too expierienced in this area but perhaps you could tell me if the design i had up there using a bike pump could that penetrate paper at ten metres?

thanks

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:45 am
by wannabie
well when i say but a hole in plaster board i didnt shoot anything since i have a srcew through the cork i just but the end up to the board and shot.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:46 am
by Redcoat
oh ok ill try it tomorrow anyway i ran in to some cash today so hopefully that is enough to make a half decent gas ram.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:48 am
by wannabie
cool good luck.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:48 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Imperialist1 wrote:Oh and if i went with my design from before how well would it work?
It would work, but it wouldn't work better than if you just eliminated the piston and use the ball valve to feed air directly into the barrel - unless you used a burst disk behind the projectile.