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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:59 pm
by FeLeX
Hey just wondering do you have any info about how electro thermal guns work? Always wanted to build one but I have a very limited knowledge about them. Maybe you could give me a link to a website or something.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:07 pm
by Hailfire753
Wow, amazingly sweet. I do not know what an "eee-lek-tro-thur-mil" gun is, and I LOVE dogfood.

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:47 pm
by Velocity
That video was very nice... even though the speed figure of 65 fps is well below what even the simplest spudgun can achieve with heavier projectiles, the ergonomics of that gun, demonstrated in a very nice way with you firing, made that thing seem like the greatest thing since the barrel-sealer :D .

Great job!

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:21 am
by jon_89
I like it. I am getting ready to build one myself. Did you put anything between each layer of the coil? Can you explain the breech loader. Wouldn't the magnet holding the ammo decrease performance?

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:04 am
by frankrede
Velocity wrote:That video was very nice... even though the speed figure of 65 fps is well below what even the simplest spudgun can achieve with heavier projectiles, the ergonomics of that gun, demonstrated in a very nice way with you firing, made that thing seem like the greatest thing since the barrel-sealer :D .

Great job!
I think 65fps is a far understatement

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 11:04 am
by Fnord
Felex: Google is your friend.

jon_89: No, I just put a dab of superglue on it every once in a while to keep it together.
As for the magnet decreasing performance,
1. It just barely holds the projectile in.
2. The forces applied to the projectile are immense. Keep in mind that the projectile accelerates to 65 fps in the space of only 1/2", which, according to GGDT would take an equivalent pneumatic gun running at 1000 psi.

Thanks guys.

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:15 pm
by FeLeX
I know I know I tried looking and all I came up with was the electro labs. As far as I understand a bank of capacitors is discharged through a wire or a spark gap thus rapidly vaporizing what ever liquid is in there.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:34 pm
by dumdog123
i have been trying to make a coilgun for a while now how can I easily wrap the coil and what did you use for your barrel?

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:35 pm
by dumdog123
do you have some kind of wire wraping jig? cause whenever i try to wrap a coil the wire layers get way to small I have a flash circuit but instead of 1 doble A powering it could i use a 9 volt?

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:29 pm
by Jared Haehnel
If I recall an electro thermal uses a dense metal for the projectile like mercury or lead...it is vaporize by a strong electrical current and because of the heat it moves upwards at an insane velocity and punches a hole through what ever gets in its way...


I would think it would take a lot of energy to make one work and I'm not certain what you would use for ammo but if you could get it to work it would be sweet.

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:36 pm
by windshrike
Mercury wouldn't make a very good projectile :? .
Usually tungsten or depleted uranium is used with a gun of this type.
An ETC gun accelerates the combustion of it's fuel by dumping large amounts of current into it at once, essentially starting burns from almost every point in the mixture.

I suggested a while ago an ETC hybrid. Most modern ETC guns use solid fuels though, and a stoichiometric mix hasn't been tried.


EDIT: Nice little gun you have there. 65 fps out of a 1/2" barrel is amazing, I'd love to build a larger optical triggered gun, but I can't design electronics :x .

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:40 pm
by Jared Haehnel
I wasn't even close.... thanks for the explanation I must have been thinking of something else I read about...

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:47 pm
by windshrike
It's ok, we all have little lapses. It sounds like you were talking about an explosively formed penetrator.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:24 pm
by The_Crow681
what projectile are you shooting from it, BB's? by the way that is very impressive. I had a similar idea but i couldn't get it to work well because i left out the capacitators but now i can! thanks for showing me the way :P

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:58 pm
by Fnord
I recently cut up bits of screwdriver to use as projectiles, and they seem to work the best of anything despite the slight magnetism.

Spheres are a bad choice to use in a gauss gun due to the small amount of interaction between the projectile and the field. you need a long thin projectile.