since clide's hear design there has been a trend twords aiming at an intergrated valve/bolt designs with possibility in auto loading
specifically I've seen a lot of designs that generally operate like chamber sealing valve that use the piston much like a blow forward bolt
during the competition, keepitreal and I worked on designs he showed me a design I really liked
its a lot like this that is much more recent post only made to telescope I didn't realize it at first
http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/semi-au ... 12170.html
clide mentioned that he had thought of similar things according to KiR during our exchange of emails, also something about the bolt bouncing
again many designs still have incorporated mechanical release like this
http://www.spudfiles.com/forums/the-sem ... 12225.html
similarly in this thread I though of this while sketching but couldn't help but think that it was a rip off of another design
generally all these designs operate like chamber sealing valve (either pneumatic or mechanical) that use the piston release in the bolt to move forward, I don't think this has yet been addressed as a concept and by doing so right now I'm hoping others won't re develop the idea in there head and not have much to work with, and help people understand these designs that have been misinterpreted and not understand that these operate on a release and not the filling action, also I'm wondering if we can establish anything about this system to help improve primitive designs
does this make sense to you guys or am I just blabbering cause I alittle tired
recent trend of design
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