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weighted gun and accuracy

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:36 pm
by Sticky_Tape
I had a thought and tested it on my new gun. The gun I used was a copper barrel sealer that is piloted by a ballvalve. Ballvalves that are used on a light gun throw off accuracy an annoying ammount.My gun is very front light. I thought why not add weight 1/4 way back from the front of the gun. This would add more inertia near the front of the gun making the gun less susceptable to the heavy jerking movement of ballvalve pilots. I tried this. The gun without the weight was very unaccurate and probably couldn't hit a 2L pop bottle from 30' with a barrel full of steel bb's. With a wieght the gun could land 30 steel bb's on 4''x7'' cardboard box at about 30'. I really suggest wieghting the end of your gun if it is very front light. Tell me what you think.

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:55 pm
by CasinoVanart
They use the same idea on compound bows to balance it out. All i do is rest the tip of the barrel against something solid (my .50 cal piston rifle is nearly 6 feet long and only weighs 1024grms) :wink: The only other way is to use a blow gun trigger i spose.

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:36 pm
by Sticky_Tape
Yeah but ballvalves have higher flow and if you wanted to use high pressures or a compressor to fill your gun you would most probably have to use quick connects. You would have to use a quick connect ballvalve and a blowgun on the pilot assembly of you gun making you spend more mulla.

Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:48 pm
by Hotwired
CasinoVanart wrote:(my .50 cal piston rifle is nearly 6 feet long and only weighs 1024grms) :wink:
Numbers numbers. My cannon is just over 1m long and clocks in at 2kg.

What it's made of makes a big difference ^^


Still, mine is also quite back heavy, the QEV, most of the chamber and the pilot tubing is situated well behind the grip.


Whatever the cannon design, the more secure its position the more accurate it will be simply through reducing unwanted movement on firing. More mass is one way but using a bipod or even attaching it to a larger object to fire from would work too.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 12:30 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
Unless you're shooting from an unsupported position, you ideally want a rifle that's as heavy as possible in terms of accuracy - take unlimited class benchrest riflesas an example.

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 8:33 pm
by CasinoVanart
I like the scope Jack, is that the kind of thing manufactures of ammo would use to test their stuff?

I would like to see someone shoot it from the hip!

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:54 pm
by Daltonultra
Why not skip the BV altogether and get a levered globe valve.

http://www.mcmaster.com part number 4625K83

Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:25 pm
by pizlo
You could have a blowgun piloted qev piloting the piston for cheaper than those valves you posted.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:33 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
CasinoVanart wrote:I like the scope Jack, is that the kind of thing manufactures of ammo would use to test their stuff?
Not quite, it's more the kind of thing enthusiasts with deep pockets use to knock off a gnat's knacker from 2,000 yards :D

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:34 am
by D_Hall
jackssmirkingrevenge wrote:Unless you're shooting from an unsupported position, you ideally want a rifle that's as heavy as possible in terms of accuracy - take unlimited class benchrest riflesas an example.
Meh....

I should find a way to bring in pics of our .50 BMG at work.

Gun weighs in at just over 600 pounds.... And its held to a 3,000 pound table using 1" bolts. :D

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:35 am
by D_Hall
[damnit, double post again... WTF!]

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:57 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
D_Hall wrote:Gun weighs in at just over 600 pounds.... And its held to a 3,000 pound table using 1" bolts. :D
All this for a 50 cal? I've guessing it doesn't quite need a recoil absorbtion system :D