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2 sprinkler

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:49 pm
by x.X.Cpt.Rollhart.X.x
Hi,

I design a very simple cannon that I plan to build next week. I just want to know your opinion on this simple gun made with 2 1" sprinkler valve. It's all made of SCH40. I will use it with about 100 psi. And I want to know if the ammount of air will be ennough for the size of the air chamber and for the size of the barrel.

This is the plan, I you dont understand anythings on it ask me

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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:54 pm
by spudshot
yeah, that'll work fine, you can lengthen the barrel if you want, you should also build a barrel support, so it doesnt whip around when you fire it.

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:24 pm
by SpudStuff
reduce the size of the manifold connecting the barrel to the valves the dead space reduces performance. also if your using chambers that big use a 2 inch connection and a thereded bushing so you can upgrade later

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:46 pm
by x.X.Cpt.Rollhart.X.x
Holy S*^# Its Still Going wrote:reduce the size of the manifold connecting the barrel to the valves the dead space reduces performance. also if your using chambers that big use a 2 inch connection and a thereded bushing so you can upgrade later
what size should I use to make the part between sprinkler valve and barrel ? (2 elbow with the tees)

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:58 am
by rna_duelers
I would leave it as is because how else are you meant to vent to valves into 1 barrel with out atleast that amount of dead space?But you could have the elbows as a part of the camber and vent into the tee directly thats the only way i can see of reducing the dead space.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:38 pm
by x.X.Cpt.Rollhart.X.x
ok final result :

what are your comments ?

The 2 black circle are sprinkler valve.

I didnt draw the blowgun (to open these srpinkler valve) and all the hoses to connect these 2 chamber.

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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 7:52 pm
by CS
I would highly suggest better valves. Dumping a 4" by 1.5' chamber threw 1" then a sprinkler vavle is really killing your flow. You dont need to buy a supah or anything, just build a T-piston.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:03 pm
by x.X.Cpt.Rollhart.X.x
pimpmann22 wrote:I would highly suggest better valves. Dumping a 4" by 1.5' chamber threw 1" then a sprinkler vavle is really killing your flow. You dont need to buy a supah or anything, just build a T-piston.
but a lot of person did that ... like :

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I am better to do something like that ?

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I am talking about the distance it will shoot

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 8:55 pm
by spudshot
it'll shoot good, dont get me wrong, but i agree with pimpmann, build some piston valves, or get some bigger sprinklers

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:18 pm
by Darkside 6ix
i duno if that would work... i think it might but if one valve doesnt go at the same time then you might have.....ooo you might even be able to make like a double shot er somthing just thought of it :)

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 3:26 am
by Benny
of course it will vent both pilots at the same time. :x

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:50 am
by x.X.Cpt.Rollhart.X.x
pvcpsyco wrote:i duno if that would work... i think it might but if one valve doesnt go at the same time then you might have.....ooo you might even be able to make like a double shot er somthing just thought of it :)
the 2 sprinler work on the same blowgun ...

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:39 pm
by sgort87
I love how the problems on Spudfiles are pointed out much slower than in a duplicate thread on Spudtech.

Yes, other people have built similar things to your design and they work alright, but what if I told you that for about $15 more you can have yourself a MUCH more powerful launcher without needing to modify your chamber or barrel volume?

Do what Pimpman said (which is about exactly what I said on Spudtech) and make two Barrel-Sealing Tee Valves, each actuated by a modified sprinkler valve. They are not hard to make in a 2" Tee. 1.25" end caps fit perfectly inside 2" pipe and work great as pistons. Give it a try and you should be quite happy.

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:47 pm
by )DEMON(
um,in your second new pic does that huge cannon have 4 sprinkler valves ?,or have i inhaled too much glue fumes