Review: Harbor Freight 13" drill press (floor model)
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Alright, here's my preliminary review. I might be adding more details later as I discover them.
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http://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-duty ... 38144.html
Price: $299; may be marked down $50 or more when on sale.
Specs:
5/8” chuck
3 1/8" stroke
16 speed, 220 – 3600 rpm
120volt single-phase 3/4hp motor
Swivel table with 45degree tilt
62” overall height
Roughly 130lbs
This is Harbor Freight's medium-duty drill press, intended for average-joe garage use and light production work.
The first thing I have to say is with regards to buying this or any HF drill press( or similar equipment)...
And that is, inspect it in the parking lot before you load it up. You might save yourself a return trip if you get a lemon.
Mine had very minor damage to the pulley cover but was otherwise ok. If possible, drop the table and head into place right there, tighten them up and check them for squareness against the column. A common defect is a table which is not perfectly level front-to-back. Also check the pulleys to make sure they are not wobbly or seized. If you have an inverter, get the motor running and verify the spindle doesn't wobble.
A second important thing: don't judge by the display items in the store. Most of them have been sitting there forever and get banged around when they move stuff. Mine looked way nicer than the one sitting out on the floor.
Putting it together was pretty straightforward and only requires two allen wrenches. Be sure to grease/oil everything up as you're doing the assembly; mine was pretty dry though no rust was visible. It also won't hurt to grease up the inside of the head while you still have access to it.
Initial problems I've noticed:
-Some of the screws and other fastener may be loose. Check the nuts on top of the pulleys if you have problems where the spindle stalls out but the motor is still spinning. You'll need a 1” socket to tighten them.
-The spindle does not wobble by itself, but with any sideways torque it will deflect a little. I have not found a way to correct this yet.
-The table, while normally square, also deflects downward when significant pressure is applied, even when it is tightened all the way. This is not a major issue unless you really have to force a bit through for some reason.
-I've heard others complain about the quality of the stock belts, but haven't had problems so far.
-Also, the base is cast iron and seems a bit thin compared to everything else. Try to take care of it
This press has recommended speeds printed on the inside of the cover, and is apparently rated up to 1/2” holes in mild steel. Of course the first thing I did was ram a 1” bit though steel and aluminum plate. The motor never stalled at 220rpm, in fact it did not even slow down. The only time I have stalled this press is because the belts started slipping. It is very quiet when idling, but gets kinda noisy when you're actually drilling. Most of this is just the pulley cover rattling.
I have done some very limited turning tests on this, and found it can be used as a makeshift lathe, but the accuracy is not that good due to the spindle deflection. When turning some 5/16” stainless rod I noticed quite a lot of noise coming from the pulleys, though adjusting the tool angle reduces this some.
If you plan on using this as a lathe, get a cross-slide vise. I have not tried the harbor freight model, so I can't say. I would not say this is a replacement for a mini lathe; if you want to turn plastic or small metal stuff it'll be just fine, but as I said, the spindle deflection will reduce the tolerances you can achieve.
Summary:
Pros-
-Plenty of power
-Oversized chuck that can still grip very small bits
-Actually decent quality for the money.
Cons-
-Probably not a good choice for turning
-Table is slightly out of square when not tightened.
-The benchtop model is identical, but a little cheaper. Go for it if you don't need the full floor-height capacity. Mine was on sale so it was the same price.
-The bolt for adjusting table tilt is kinda hard to get to. I recommend adjusting it with a heavy block of wood
Overall I think I would recommend this press. If want a better one, you're going to have to find a vintage american press or drop an extra $300-500 for an actual trusted name brand. I'm talking Jet, Clausing, ect.
Alright, here's my preliminary review. I might be adding more details later as I discover them.
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http://www.harborfreight.com/heavy-duty ... 38144.html
Price: $299; may be marked down $50 or more when on sale.
Specs:
5/8” chuck
3 1/8" stroke
16 speed, 220 – 3600 rpm
120volt single-phase 3/4hp motor
Swivel table with 45degree tilt
62” overall height
Roughly 130lbs
This is Harbor Freight's medium-duty drill press, intended for average-joe garage use and light production work.
The first thing I have to say is with regards to buying this or any HF drill press( or similar equipment)...
And that is, inspect it in the parking lot before you load it up. You might save yourself a return trip if you get a lemon.
Mine had very minor damage to the pulley cover but was otherwise ok. If possible, drop the table and head into place right there, tighten them up and check them for squareness against the column. A common defect is a table which is not perfectly level front-to-back. Also check the pulleys to make sure they are not wobbly or seized. If you have an inverter, get the motor running and verify the spindle doesn't wobble.
A second important thing: don't judge by the display items in the store. Most of them have been sitting there forever and get banged around when they move stuff. Mine looked way nicer than the one sitting out on the floor.
Putting it together was pretty straightforward and only requires two allen wrenches. Be sure to grease/oil everything up as you're doing the assembly; mine was pretty dry though no rust was visible. It also won't hurt to grease up the inside of the head while you still have access to it.
Initial problems I've noticed:
-Some of the screws and other fastener may be loose. Check the nuts on top of the pulleys if you have problems where the spindle stalls out but the motor is still spinning. You'll need a 1” socket to tighten them.
-The spindle does not wobble by itself, but with any sideways torque it will deflect a little. I have not found a way to correct this yet.
-The table, while normally square, also deflects downward when significant pressure is applied, even when it is tightened all the way. This is not a major issue unless you really have to force a bit through for some reason.
-I've heard others complain about the quality of the stock belts, but haven't had problems so far.
-Also, the base is cast iron and seems a bit thin compared to everything else. Try to take care of it
This press has recommended speeds printed on the inside of the cover, and is apparently rated up to 1/2” holes in mild steel. Of course the first thing I did was ram a 1” bit though steel and aluminum plate. The motor never stalled at 220rpm, in fact it did not even slow down. The only time I have stalled this press is because the belts started slipping. It is very quiet when idling, but gets kinda noisy when you're actually drilling. Most of this is just the pulley cover rattling.
I have done some very limited turning tests on this, and found it can be used as a makeshift lathe, but the accuracy is not that good due to the spindle deflection. When turning some 5/16” stainless rod I noticed quite a lot of noise coming from the pulleys, though adjusting the tool angle reduces this some.
If you plan on using this as a lathe, get a cross-slide vise. I have not tried the harbor freight model, so I can't say. I would not say this is a replacement for a mini lathe; if you want to turn plastic or small metal stuff it'll be just fine, but as I said, the spindle deflection will reduce the tolerances you can achieve.
Summary:
Pros-
-Plenty of power
-Oversized chuck that can still grip very small bits
-Actually decent quality for the money.
Cons-
-Probably not a good choice for turning
-Table is slightly out of square when not tightened.
-The benchtop model is identical, but a little cheaper. Go for it if you don't need the full floor-height capacity. Mine was on sale so it was the same price.
-The bolt for adjusting table tilt is kinda hard to get to. I recommend adjusting it with a heavy block of wood
Overall I think I would recommend this press. If want a better one, you're going to have to find a vintage american press or drop an extra $300-500 for an actual trusted name brand. I'm talking Jet, Clausing, ect.
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Sweet. Nice review. I would not turn metal with it though. Could get ugly since this machine isn't made for it. I wouldn't use this for milling either. I bet it will ruin the bearings.
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I think it could be used for milling soft metals... *gently*.
The deflection would not be so bad for milling bits that are, say, 1/8" in diameter. You'd probably snap or bend the bit before you hurt the bearings.
The deflection would not be so bad for milling bits that are, say, 1/8" in diameter. You'd probably snap or bend the bit before you hurt the bearings.
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I have the table top model and yeah i have the same problems but i got my for free as i found it in the street it was a bit rusted but still works.
I have milled the cover for my semi but i used a table saw and chisel to get most of it out then finished it with the drill press. i ground a 25mm spade bit to the shape i need and feed in slowly
I have milled the cover for my semi but i used a table saw and chisel to get most of it out then finished it with the drill press. i ground a 25mm spade bit to the shape i need and feed in slowly
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Wait, so you found a drill press just sitting on the street!?
Oh and nice review Fnord
Oh and nice review Fnord
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I bought this one about 8 years ago. My local HF store had them on sale for $185.00. Before using it, I replaced the chuck with a Jacobs chuck. I have no complaints as it does what it was designed to do......drill.
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I bought a table drill press last weekend too
Very nice to turn nylons and aluminium, but of course, the accuracy can not be compared to a lathe.
Very nice to turn nylons and aluminium, but of course, the accuracy can not be compared to a lathe.
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Update 3/3/12
Replacement part is being shipped for free. HF Customer service has been a little slow in replying but otherwise pleasant to deal with. While I'm fixing the thing I'm going to see if I can modify it to avoid a similar failure in the future. I'm also going to try contacting the R&D department to get this thing re-engineered correctly. This is the only part of the press I've seen that looks way underbuilt, so it has to be a common failure point.
Note that in its current condition the press is still functional. The pulley slips under load, but applying significant belt tension can still allow you to drill mid-range stuff with no problem.
Replacement part is being shipped for free. HF Customer service has been a little slow in replying but otherwise pleasant to deal with. While I'm fixing the thing I'm going to see if I can modify it to avoid a similar failure in the future. I'm also going to try contacting the R&D department to get this thing re-engineered correctly. This is the only part of the press I've seen that looks way underbuilt, so it has to be a common failure point.
Note that in its current condition the press is still functional. The pulley slips under load, but applying significant belt tension can still allow you to drill mid-range stuff with no problem.
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17/4/2012
Well guys, I broke another pulley insert a while back. I talked to the HF quality control guy and he said he'd test them out.
In an obviously thorough and comprehensive test, he drilled two 3/4" holes in mild steel and concluding that I could not have broken the insert in this manner.
From this I concluded he's either really, really busy or doesn't care. I'm not going to bother arguing anymore.
If anyone would be interested in machining me a new part from a decent alloy, please leave a reply. This might be tricky though, since I'm not sure how one would do the spindle engagement teeth.
I have parts on back order, but they'll be at least another month for whatever reason.
Well guys, I broke another pulley insert a while back. I talked to the HF quality control guy and he said he'd test them out.
In an obviously thorough and comprehensive test, he drilled two 3/4" holes in mild steel and concluding that I could not have broken the insert in this manner.
From this I concluded he's either really, really busy or doesn't care. I'm not going to bother arguing anymore.
If anyone would be interested in machining me a new part from a decent alloy, please leave a reply. This might be tricky though, since I'm not sure how one would do the spindle engagement teeth.
I have parts on back order, but they'll be at least another month for whatever reason.