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Just a thought???

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 12:23 pm
by mattyzip77
Has anyone ever tried to use one of the compound rounds from Ultimate Spud Gun as a piston?? I was thinking, it already has the o ring, why not just slap on a sealing face? Or would it be too heavy?? Your thoughts and opinions please!! Thanks!!

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:01 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
I suppose you could cut one down and replace the metal face with a rubber one, they're not too expensive either.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 1:28 pm
by jsefcik
thats an awesome idea, next thing we know they are selling pistons lol

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:55 pm
by mattyzip77
Its made to fit inside of 2 inch sch.40 perfectly with the o ring, so it should work in a 2 inch tee perfect, I would think? Does anyone have one that could comment?

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 4:55 pm
by PCGUY
The 2" TEE fitting would have a larger ID than just a 2" piece of SCH40... because the TEE is designed to be the female end of the connection between the TEE and a piece of pipe. Due to that, it won't fit.

You could ask Mike at UltimateSpudGun about making a modified round to use as a piston.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 5:57 pm
by mattyzip77
PCGUY wrote:The 2" TEE fitting would have a larger ID than just a 2" piece of SCH40... because the TEE is designed to be the female end of the connection between the TEE and a piece of pipe. Due to that, it won't fit.

You could ask Mike at UltimateSpudGun about making a modified round to use as a piston.
Yes, however you usually put a small piece of 2 inch pipe in the tee for the piston to slide correctly?? Wow, the legendary P.C. GUY comments in one of my threads!! I feel honored!!! :shock: :shock: Thanks for your reply.

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:05 pm
by Technician1002
Hmmm Maybe a supplier of QDV pistons...

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:52 pm
by mattyzip77
Someone else really should start up another site. Launchpotatoes.com is no longer, and spudtech has the supah valve, which is huge and a bit pricey. And Ultimate spudgun has no pneumatics at all. Alot of people dont have the tools, or wisdom to make a good barrel sealer. I didnt have a clue until I got one in my hands and actually seen how it was made and how it worked. As I said before, just a thought......................................................................

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 8:04 pm
by PCGUY
mattyzip77 wrote:
PCGUY wrote:The 2" TEE fitting would have a larger ID than just a 2" piece of SCH40... because the TEE is designed to be the female end of the connection between the TEE and a piece of pipe. Due to that, it won't fit.

You could ask Mike at UltimateSpudGun about making a modified round to use as a piston.
Yes, however you usually put a small piece of 2 inch pipe in the tee for the piston to slide correctly?? Wow, the legendary P.C. GUY comments in one of my threads!! I feel honored!!! :shock: :shock: Thanks for your reply.
Humm true... shows how many pistons I've built :D but I believe I've seen it numerous ways, sleeved and unsleeved.

It could probably work but something to keep in mind is that the compound rounds have a bolt through them to hold the metal front cap on. You would need to remove that bolt and seal it very well with some epoxy or something...

I know Mike from UltimateSpudGun's has numerous projects going on, but possibly he may be interested in expanding into some accessories for cannons such as a the piston for a piston valve setup.

Re: Just a thought???

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 11:38 pm
by velocity3x
mattyzip77 wrote: it already has the o ring, why not just slap on a sealing face? !!
IMO....it wont work. Matty, have you considered that the round being hollow will also create a huge pilot volume?

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 11:57 pm
by jackssmirkingrevenge
mattyzip77 wrote:Alot of people dont have the tools, or wisdom to make a good barrel sealer.
If they don't have the wisdom then maybe they cannot be trusted to use one responsibly ;)

Re: Just a thought???

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:44 am
by mattyzip77
velocity3x wrote:
mattyzip77 wrote: it already has the o ring, why not just slap on a sealing face? !!
IMO....it wont work. Matty, have you considered that the round being hollow will also create a huge pilot volume?
I did not know they were hollow, never seen one personally. However, could fill it with hot glue, epoxy, whatever??

Re: Just a thought???

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:53 am
by jackssmirkingrevenge
mattyzip77 wrote:I did not know they were hollow, never seen one personally. However, could fill it with hot glue, epoxy, whatever??
It would make more sense to chop it, far too long for a coax piston anyway.

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:34 am
by Technician1002
Hollow is fine. On a narrow ratio piston, lightweight reins over pilot volume. Narrow ratio pistons pop open. Wide ratio ones honk. Wide ratio pistons benefit from low pilot volume.