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Need someone more expierenced please

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:17 pm
by grum7n7
I am making my first propane gun...i made some rough plans for it...i know the chamber size and barrel length and the amount of propane but i dont know the meter pipe length yet because i need to figure out a pressure to run it at...

barrel = 40" x .5"
combustion = 8" x 1'
amount of propane in chamber = 4.12ml

questions

1) will this plan work? if not please give me some corrections or tips
2) will the bend going from the combustion to the barrel affect anything as opposed to it being just straight?
3)same for the propane steup? will the propane setup work?
4) what pressure should i run this at (at 90 psi the meter pipe would have to be .24 inches long lol)
5)please tell me anything you see wrong with and a solution

im not being demanding and i dont mean to sound it, but im somewhat of a noob when it comes to propane stuff...if you dont want to help me dont, but if you wish, help me please...it will be appreciated

thanks

nick

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:25 pm
by Mihlrad
http://burntlatke.com/ft_live.html

Use that to calculate the sizes.

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:35 pm
by grum7n7
if the pressure is at 21.5 psi with a 3/8 meter pipe it will give me a length of 1 inch...

will a 1 inch meter pipe be ok and will 21.5 psi be enough pressure to empty all the propane into the chamber?

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:54 pm
by Mihlrad
if the fuel tool says its ok, its ok... but 1 inch at 21.5 psi seems a bit low, how small was the chamber again?

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:55 pm
by SpudStuff
that won't be very powerful

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:00 pm
by grum7n7
yeah tahts what i was thinking that it wouldnt be very powerful...


the chamber volume is 6.28 cu. in....102.91ml

should it be bigger and mae the barrel bigger too to keep the .8:1 ratio

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:20 pm
by SpudStuff
um that would be like a mini.

look into using a pnumatic. the only modification to your current design is to add a valve to the barrel near the rear. it will be much more powerful

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:22 pm
by Mihlrad
If your going to use propane just use 4" or 3" pipe, it will cost you 3x as much though, i agree with spudstuff go pnuematic, same design with a valve in it. Far cheaper too.

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:28 pm
by grum7n7
aright ill go pnuematic then...should i keep the same ratio (.8:1) or is the ratio supposed to be different???

also the bend from the chamber to the barrel has no effect right??

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:34 pm
by SpudStuff
the bend will have an effect because air is a fluid and fluids loose speed each time they change direction. you couuld ude to make the chamber larger. tre 2" x 8" and for the barrel use 3/4 inch CPVC so you can shoot paint balls. when you install your valve put it between thebarrel and the bends at the rear. i would recoment using a modified sprinkler valve.

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:40 pm
by Shrimphead
The bend will have an effect, but it is pretty minimal. Over-unders are probably one of if not the most common pneumatic, so don't worry about it.

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:21 pm
by grum7n7
aright cool guys

thanks

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:21 pm
by grum7n7
what pressure would you run it at?

and how does it compare to a combustion