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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:54 am
by CS
chosen_way, my ET friend tells me "take me to your reefer!".

"I assure you that my "opinion" is not just that"

Possibly you took my assertion that you must be Jesus a bit to serious?

"but what I and many other members see. In other words, I speak for many in what I say."

Mer... Ive had several PM and IM me with there thanks. There requests that I clean up there topic, so they can get a fricken' answer and not some drifting which turns into "fork off spudstuff". (Wasnt that specific response, but a example of what it is, seeing as my memory is failing me) So Id have reason to believe that I was "backed" in my decision, I also still think so, but obviously understand the numbers are a different. Heck, some of these people I have claimed of "heavy moderating" I maintain almost daily IM's. I think when these people understand what Im doing is to improve the forum, there down with it and understand its not about them, but the forum in whole.

"I really do think you would be getting a lot more crap if you were an average new member right now."

Possibly, but not banned. This speculation of what would have happened is rather wasteful in time, quite simply discussing things in both past tense and of speculation, is again wasteful, so I wont care to discuss it further. I guess you can try your hand at why we should keep discussing it...

"Your reply to my final statement made no sense."

One dumbed up version coming up! Maybe not, not sure if I wanna type that much.

"This is not an argument about who does better work or anything like that. It is about reasoning and judgment. Lately, I think you have gone a bit extreme. I don't want you to just slow down; I want you to UNDERSTAND."

Its not. I think I clearly exploited that in the surrounding body of text. Ive clearly understood that and hence why im setting the moderating to "low". Im not going to engage in any "deletion" and such seeing as the controversy is to great. I see other mods keep a rather low pro, and dont take "crap". I personally dont want to further get caught up in the debate off how to moderate. Believe it or not when people did object to my moderations, it did infact take a toll.

PC, im rather bothered when dont expect good things for the forum. Always referring to this place as "noob haven" in essence. Id venture to speculate that your low expectations of the forum, could have serious impact on how these forums have gone. Higher standards produce better results. Ive always loved the imagination and ingenuity thats thrived here, and hoped that could be coupled with a refinement in how they were exchanged. I give a crap about this forum, hence why my post count at ST is ~150, and here its ~950. Only stopping in for political discussions in general most of the time. I could ramble on more, but ill save it for the possible next post.

"To go with what BLB said on kicking up topics, I mean the reply should have to be real stupid to get flamed for kicking something up."

I see people post pics of a soccer guy getting racked in the nards, but are suttle reminders that "kicking" is frowned upon for its content, is not tolerated.

"However we also have the right to bear arms but we don't walk around with AK-47's."

First off we should, but lovely politicians limit there availability. Either way, you never set a perimeter to what my limits were. Yes, im sorry for ruining my welcomness, but in all trueness, I wasnt attempting to stretch the rules.

"but when pimpmann made this post comming off as if he's DR on SpudTech going on a mass deleting/locking rampage, I reacted. I want my mods to keep the place clean, but not go nuts... know what I mean?"


I in no way am trying to copy DR. Ill admit I dont hate him like I used to, but I disagree on a lot of stuff he does. I hate how he is idolized and in truth would probably deterred from copying him for the simple fact. I understand you, and I will keep a extremely low-pro as far as moderating.

"I think in your initial post of this thread you sounded like you were trying to be a real hardass, when indeed your not."

Hardass=stern ;-) When did you get the idea I wasnt a hardass :P

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:27 pm
by sgort87
Tony, you are still not listening. Also, you keep trying to lighten the mood and such. This is no time for that. I am being serious and I need you to realize that you are not acting right.

You continue to speak of people backing you up with PMs and emails but I still see no proof of this. Maybe some quotes will help. And I mean with a name attached. For some reason I doubt you have many to back you up because there don't seem to be many members on your side in here.

Just back down for a while. If I were you, I wouldn't even respond to this post. Seriously.

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:36 pm
by CS
Subject: About the forums recently

Dear pimpmann22, (im a little tired please excuse my grammer at some points)

I fully agree with you on the entire, forum becomming a retarded shithole thing, i personally have contributed on a few occasions to it and for that i do apologize. Regarding certain things like random immature fighting on the forums, such as the tostitos person or whatever in the P3 strafer topic, you shouldnt worry about what the other people think if you close it. I personally see it in a way that you would only be helping to bring back a mature, respectable forum. Sometimes one must do what must be done, to help the many and not just the few. Also, regarding the how i lost two good friends topic, people like darkwebber should not be tolerated and should pretty much be given a warning or ban for serious breaking of rules. (by the way what i meant by the knife vs gun as a defense weapon, i meant that a knife can far more easily be taken away from you and turned against you than a gun, a gun people are generally not stupid enough to try to approach you whereas with a knife, they can just grab you and its over. Either way i completely agree with you that a weapon, of any kind is certainly a sign of weakness)

I propse that you put a sticky , highlighted or something to get peoples attention regarding the rules, and codes of conduct of this forum. Or just make a new section entirely that everyone will pretty much be required to read, and if they dont read it, than its there loss when they get banned.

Again, my apologies for any past incidents where i may have gotten a little bit immature as well, i will try my best to do my part in making this forum a more respectable and mature place once again.

Thank you for taking your time to read this slightly long message.

-Mike Jones (Name changed on request)

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:40 pm
by M3NT4L
I have a hard time trying to tell this dude ^^^ that it pisses me the hell of how he just keeps being irrespectfull to me and sends me little pm's about my spelling and two line messaging. I dont post many 2-liners and if i do it is because there is nothing else to say in the matter or im in a hurry, and my spelling isnt a disaster :roll: . But he contanly curses and repeats im an as...hole, maybe he is right on that one but he isnt the damn boss, i think that he would have more influence on people in this forum if he said things in a respectfull and kind way, not sarcasmic and arrogant wich is what he currently does. This is just my opinion like his is toward me.

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:13 pm
by CS
"keeps being irrespectfull to me and sends me little pm's about my spelling and two line messaging." ~M3NT4L

I searched my outbox and ive PMed you ONCE! You stated plural and were leaning to a severe form of plural, wrong! I belive Ive left you 1-2 notes, both prior to the PM. Here is the PM...

"Youve posted 19 whopping times today... All of which are lacking grammar and content. Please improve the grammar by using puncuations, and capitalization. Please also better think out your posts content, and revise them. About half your post I havent understood soley from the lack or revision.

Please dont come back to me crying, rather fix the mistakes. If you so choose to continue on this path of worthless posts, I will simply delete your posts. Thank you for your time."

You can quit complianing cause I will try not to poke my head into your convos be it moderation or contribution. Im 99% sure in one post I thanked you for your change in writing. You used to use the devil icon, never capatlize, and were hard to understand. I was then reading the forum one day and BAM! you were using good grammar, better composed writing, and I could understand the first run threw. I quite well remeber recognizing the change and commented you for stunning improvement. But heck I get stuck with everything "negative" ive done...

I understand why your angery at me. I came down hard on you for lack of time spent on posting. Dont think I have any thing against you as a indivual, I dont. Ive "hounded" others to increase both there content and grammar, when they improved I thanked them for respecting my advice and never hear from me unless we have a freindly IM over AIM. There is few people I dislike in this whole community, your not one of them. Just hoping you understand where im coming from.
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:27 pm
by Mihlrad
M3NT4L wrote:Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! are you seriously making a lead slug for a mini pen tube combustion! #1 thats dumb because those guns dont have enough power to shoot a lead slug far. #2 if its a pen tube use pencil erasers, airsoft bb's and if you are crafty enough ball bearings. If you are making lead slugs for a quality pvc pneumatic or combust then thats a good idea. Heat the lead up in a pan or so and then carve a mold out of a potatoe then dry it and i think that would be a good mold.
Yea mental you are clealry the greatest asset to this forum.

You start your post by being a complete douchebag. You than continue to say a mini combustion cannot shoot a lead slug (it was solder not lead dumbass) but say that it can handle shooting a ball bearing. But no, thats not all you actually think you can melt lead on a stove and mold it in a potatoe, that was the best part.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:58 am
by M3NT4L
Spyider wrote:
heres an idea cut the end off and go to a new store dont be cheap get a endcap that fits think about it... will it be that mutch more difficult to just get a 3" ?

milhrad wrote:
It would be MUCH better if you could spare us your terrible grammar.
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(are you a mod, NO! so dont act like one)
WHO IS A DOUCHEBAG! you are
Personaly i have made lead slugs in the way i explained and they worked, but when i made one for my mini it melted the chamber.
And these are skateboarding bearingsImage see the metal balls, well little boy when there are popped off they are a perfect fit on most pen tubes, so do some reaserch when you try to pun someone.
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Pimpman, it just angers me when you seem to be bossing everyone including me around, so im sorry if i offended you i guess i felt angry for having someone on internet feel they have the right to tell me what to do, i know it is your job. By the way i never ever had a devil icon.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:42 am
by chosen_way
ok so maybe i was banned not kicked off, but it never said anything like banned or anything, maybe moderators shouldnt be able to just delete posts or ban people maybe they should just be able to send PCGUY a pm telling him that this topic is stupid and it should be banned or deleted or whatever and PCGUY makes the decision. it probably cant be done but anyway i dont know i am terrible with computes.

Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:11 am
by PCGUY
chosen_way, the account "lamo_damo" is perfectly fine. A moderator can NOT do anything to a member, they can only edit/delete/lock/move posts/threads. Only I have anymore power than that.

Chances are maybe I broke the fourm that day when you were trying to post and it errored and you thought you were banned kicked off or something. Who knows.

I've talked to pimpmann and others and things have cooled off, and new understandings have been made. I am going to go ahead and lock this thread, any other issues/thoughts should be directed to me/whoever via email or PM.