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Converting an array of air tanks for spud gun use
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:41 pm
by Caramanos2000
hello, I am currently in the design process of my second gun, which I am hoping to build with either a 20lb propane tank or a 15lb extinguisher, any 1 got any tips, suggestions? etc?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:28 am
by spudshot
empty them before you do anything to them
why do you want to use a prop. tank or fire extinguisher tank? more pressure? safety? coolness factor?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:43 pm
by sergeantspud2
extinguishers are co2 right so you can hook a co2 tank directly to it without a regulator. you could get really high psi
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:49 pm
by spudshot
uh NO if i remember right they're filled to about 200 psi, NOT 800
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:05 pm
by sergeantspud2
oh sorry i thought all co2 was the same psi
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:41 pm
by spudshot
sorry if i came off harsh, that just really set off a safety alarm, 800psi of super cold unregulated co2 in a thin aluminum tank...
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:46 pm
by sergeantspud2
i was thinking about doing that so thankyou for telling me not to
back on topic: i would use the extinguisher just because it looks cooler
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:54 pm
by iamthewalrus
spudshot could u put unreg co2 in a like 5 or 10gl EMPTY propane tank?? not that im going to now, but in the future who knows...
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:33 pm
by spudshot
propane liquefies at 90psi, so i dont think the pressure in a 10lb would be much more than that of a bernzo tank, so i wouldnt do it, i know the safety valves on bernzo's have a pop pressure of something like 200 psi, dont quote me on that, so i dont think it's be particularly safe to put unregged co2 in it.
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:56 am
by Caramanos2000
First of all extinguisherswork at 200PSi and propane tanks are rated to 400psi. So i wana do it fore safety, more psi, and easier to paint, A lot of power. Estimates with the propane tank at 150psi are around 2000fps.
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:38 am
by spudshot
impossible, you'll never get over the speed of sound with air unless its heated to a very high temp., if you want to break the sound barrier, go helium
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:41 pm
by iamthewalrus
umm spudshot,
http://www.spudtech.com/content.asp?id=10, look at the last pic, thats a pnumatic and he broke 1200fps, did he use helium??
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:55 pm
by spudshot
i'm not sure if joel did or not, he didnt chrony it, he just said he heard a loud noise, which he believed to be the sonic boom from breaking the barrier
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:59 pm
by iamthewalrus
ic, so does that mean only hybrids can basicaly break 1200fps, or can normal combustions and pnumatics (with helium) too
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:26 pm
by spudshot
no way an average combustion could break the sound barrier