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Unread postPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 11:08 pm
Author: PneuJose
paaiyan wrote: I also keep a four-inch blade under my pillow, so call me paranoid if you like, but God help anyone who breaks into my house.


I have a Colsteel bushman...just in case.
ive gotta be extra carefull to not stab my sis wen shes waking me up screaming.. :?

~~back in subject~
well you did the right thing, even tho i would pwned the guy...yeah well ur getting 3months if you do:shock: :shock:

Unread postPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:16 am
Author: Killjoy
read the description on the "terminator" shells. Ive seen one fired at a pig carcus and the damage to it was unbeleivable, hole was big enough for me to stick my fist in all the way to a little past my wrist (i was 12 mind you). http://www.deltaforce.com/catalog/12gaugeammo.html
As soon as i turn 18 i'm buying a spas 12 shotgun, when i'm 21 i'm buying a colt 45 and maybe a 50 cal desert eagle (more for fun then actual protection). Until then though i'm sticking to my baseball bat and replica paintball shotgun loaded with solid rubber balls. I've stopped and incapacitated a 200 pound guy with it.

Unread postPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:34 am
Author: benstern
yeah..... thats why I keep razors and axes and pieces of wood with nails in the end and hydrochloric acid in my garage.

Unread postPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:39 am
Author: goathunter
Killjoy,the flechete rounds sound pretty nasty to me.Being as how I have seen flechetes the idea of getting stabbed by 20 mini steel arrows just isn't fun. :lol:
Benstern, Are you by any chance related to Vlad the Impaler?

Unread postPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:56 am
Author: iknowmy3tables
you should have fired man imagine the news homemade gun stops robber in his tracks we asked him and he relied I hate spudguns that just might rasie suport for spudguns in australia. I might be an american with a redneck heart but i think nothing teaches a crimmal like being shot in the act if they live and their is a good chance :lol:

Unread postPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:38 am
Author: mark.f
Joanna wrote:@Markfh11q: Looking up the rough facts about a .38 revolver, I can assure you I'd rather get hit with one of those than even some of the smaller spudguns me and my twin brother have between us.

A heavy 20mm steel ball bearing clocking half the speed of sound will make one bloody hell of a mess if it hits something you don't want it to - and a bigger mess if it hits something you do want it to.


I was really referring more to the rate of fire and accuracy, (a .38" Special revolver is one of the most accurate pistols there is out to 40 meters!).

You are right about energy. A 130 grain, (8.4 grams), .38 round moving at 810 fps, (246.9 m/s), is about 256 Joules of energy. A 20mm steel bearing, (I calculated it to be around 33.6 grams if it is 316 stainless steel), going around 200 m/s, is around 672 Joules.

Unread postPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:53 am
Author: integral
benstern wrote:yeah..... thats why I keep razors and axes and pieces of wood with nails in the end and hydrochloric acid in my garage.


Wood to stun, razors to scratch flesh and hydrochloric acid to pour into the gashes? Sounds like a fool proof intruder security system you got there :lol:

Back on topic: I'm suprised that you actually thought about the law MrCrowley, personally I would be all excited and taken aim. What are the chances in a quite suburb that a robber (hostile) comes running down your driveway when you have your beloved spudgun charged and loaded at the ready...

Unread postPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 2:09 pm
Author: joannaardway
markfh11q wrote:I was really referring more to the rate of fire and accuracy, (a .38" Special revolver is one of the most accurate pistols there is out to 40 meters!).

You are right about energy. A 130 grain, (8.4 grams), .38 round moving at 810 fps, (246.9 m/s), is about 256 Joules of energy. A 20mm steel bearing, (I calculated it to be around 33.6 grams if it is 316 stainless steel), going around 200 m/s, is around 672 Joules.

It's not quite as fast as 200 m/s - it's closer to 150, but that's still a good 50% more energy than the .38 special.
And if the the Taylor stopping power equation is anything to go by, then the high weight and bore size make it pretty nasty (about 24 at a quick estimate).

Of course, a spudgun wouldn't stand up to a .38 special at range, or for rate of fire, but for each single hit, I'd bet the spudgun would do more.
Maybe sometime I'll experiment with water boxes and stuff to see what might really happen...

Disclaimer: I do not promote shooting people with spudguns - or anything dangerous for that matter.

Unread postPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:46 pm
Author: mark.f
I might have to look at some more "ballistics gel" to test a marble gun on. It's just store-bought gelatin, but it still does fairly well. Last time I made it I shot it once with a pellet gun just to test function and then chunked the remainder around at school the next day. Just a hint, you don't want to smell gelatin after it's sat in the sun all day.

Unread postPosted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:51 pm
Author: goathunter
Well, gelatin is an animal byproduct.Paintball shells are made out of it.They really start to stinking in the summer.Oh, and the Chinese use soap blocks to test there ballistics.I've seen bullets do a whole lot more damage in soap than they do gelatin :wink:

Unread postPosted: Thu May 31, 2007 12:31 am
Author: Bubba05
MrCrowley mate your a champion.
Ouick reshinal thinking! It's good to see someone responsable out there! You probly scared the crap outa the poor bastard by opening the door that would have been punishment enough! And if the cops got him they probly sunk the boot into him back at the cop shop.
Well done mate a round of applause in you honor!

Bubba

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:40 am
Author: mtronic
hmm i had someone smash into my garage and steal my dirt bike while i was at work. God help the fool if i had have been home coz i would have taken to them with an axe or the Bali Kriss.
I hate theives

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:07 am
Author: Redcoat
funny thing is if someone does that i've got my front driveway rigged with a couple of homemade anti riot BB dishargers.They make people roll on the ground at 25 feet.(don't ask me how i know. :wink: ) so they'd probably just run. :D

I also have on in my room and i also keep a swiss army knife hunter model and my dad's old Stilleto fom when he was a commando.Isn't it funny most people on this forum have built or they have defenses for their houses?
:)

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:15 am
Author: wannabie
I dont have any thing protecting my house.. any way if any rober came into my room to steal my computer they would get a hockey stick to the face... lol

Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:40 pm
Author: Kenny_McCormic
From_Hamsterdam wrote:If some one comes in to your back yard then are they fair game?
in the us only if they are a threat to your or your families life