piezo/ignition coil
Ok, I'm bored and I just bought the ignition coil for my upcoming hybrid project. However, I have not yet obtained a camera capacitor. So, I was thinking about hooking a piezo grill sparker (the kind with the red button) to the coil to make a big spark. My questions are-
#1- Is it safe to do this/ if yes, what precautions should be taken.
#2- What would be the best way to do this (all I want is a spark, MS paint diagram would be helpful)
also, I have included a diagram of how I think I will do it, correct me if I'm wrong.
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#1- Is it safe to do this/ if yes, what precautions should be taken.
#2- What would be the best way to do this (all I want is a spark, MS paint diagram would be helpful)
also, I have included a diagram of how I think I will do it, correct me if I'm wrong.
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You will be fine an ignition coil is just coil windings that increase the voltage. I like your sparks .
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I don't get what ignition coils do I would think that they would make weaken the voltage.
You can tell how awesome a cannon is by the pressure used.
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They are coil windings basically. I really don;t get them either but the coil windings induct more voltage or something. They are in ratios like 1:100 that means you put in one volt and get out 100 volts. The hundred is how many windings per a certain length. (I think)
mobile chernobyl wrote:I can shoot a Canuter Valve off my '82 Chevy Ram F150 AT LEAST 3/4 Mile with 'ma cannon made of soup cans duct taped together, then I just squirt some bacardi 151 in the chamber and hold up my cigarrete lighta and WHOOSH! That thing flies at least 3/4 mile
Yes you will be safe.
mobile chernobyl wrote:I can shoot a Canuter Valve off my '82 Chevy Ram F150 AT LEAST 3/4 Mile with 'ma cannon made of soup cans duct taped together, then I just squirt some bacardi 151 in the chamber and hold up my cigarrete lighta and WHOOSH! That thing flies at least 3/4 mile
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Just one question- WHY?!!?!?
The piezo is already a *very* high voltage, more than enough to trigger any spudgun. Pumping it through a lage ratio transformer probably won't even work due to internal arcing and weak ass current, let alone be redundant. I doubt there would be any safety issues, but it's pretty high on my futilitiometer
The piezo is already a *very* high voltage, more than enough to trigger any spudgun. Pumping it through a lage ratio transformer probably won't even work due to internal arcing and weak ass current, let alone be redundant. I doubt there would be any safety issues, but it's pretty high on my futilitiometer
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the grill igniter is fine by itself. why cant u get a flash circuit. all i do is go to my local drug store and ask for old disposable cameras then they give me about 20 every time. i use the capacitors as a power source for my grenade fuses.
WHY PAY FOR IT WHEN U CAN MAKE IT?
It can't work.
The ignition coil is meant to deal with 12V in and about 30k out. A piezo is already about 30kv, it'll just go straight through the coil insulation.
The ignition coil is meant to deal with 12V in and about 30k out. A piezo is already about 30kv, it'll just go straight through the coil insulation.
True, but due to the extra thick insulation it can handle a bit more then 12V input.Hotwired wrote:It can't work.
The ignition coil is meant to deal with 12V in and about 30k out. A piezo is already about 30kv, it'll just go straight through the coil insulation.
People have used 300V camera flashes through a ignition coil for the ultimate sparks.
I can explain that:Ok, i tried this, it failed, so I hooked it up to a 12v battery, the only spark was between the two halfs of the neg. wire just before I crossed them. Sad
Coils only work with alternating current (or single pulses like from camera capacitors). Batteries always give direct current. So even if it would work, it would only spark on connecting or disconnecting the battery.
The spark you got when connecting the battery is just because of the high amps going through.
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You won't be able to push more than 300,000 volts out of a typical ignition coil without frying it. Even if your piezo DID have enough current to make an ignition coil work, it would just arc straight through the insulation, being that you'll be getting 1,000,000+ volts on the secondary side. Also, being you didn't bother to find the +/- terminals on your piezo you probably just fried your coil for good.
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Mark,
If you hook a battery or other energy source up to the coil the wrong way (with the positive lead hooked up where the negative should be, etc.), you'll destroy the coil. Or at least, that's what happened to me every time.
If you hook a battery or other energy source up to the coil the wrong way (with the positive lead hooked up where the negative should be, etc.), you'll destroy the coil. Or at least, that's what happened to me every time.
ok, how can i tell if I did ruin the coil?
Also, I'm getting a few old cameras from the store near my house, I'll use a capacitor from one of them (that is of the coil isn't fried)
Also, I'm getting a few old cameras from the store near my house, I'll use a capacitor from one of them (that is of the coil isn't fried)
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