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Should "Pyrotechnics" be brought to the SpudFiles Forum if used safely with ceratin restrictions?

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Unread postAuthor: PCGUY » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:00 pm

Whats the timescale for the interest rate on the spudbux bank Wink

1 week

When do we eat?

We? I don't know about you but I ate a few hours ago :lol:

In the mean time, how far away is Theopia from phpBB 3.0?

Doesn't directly answer your question but please see this... posted today.

http://www.theopia.com/viewtopic.php?t=1003&

simple as it is
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Freedom of speech.

Very true, however do you know how often they must run into legal crap? I don't have the resources or ability that they have. Site with a staff of people and a massive user base and profits out the wazoo > SpudFiles.
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Unread postAuthor: TurboSuper » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:12 pm

Good to know that it's from a legal standpoint rather than a safety one.

Guess it's just a fringe benefit.
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:26 pm

PCGUY wrote:
In the mean time, how far away is Theopia from phpBB 3.0?

Doesn't directly answer your question but please see this... posted today.

http://www.theopia.com/viewtopic.php?t=1003&

I can see the problem with the spambots. One of the better spam bot filtering ideas I've ever seen was to have a question in the registration that asked a simple maths question - in text, like:
"What is three times nine, plus one? Answer in text form, lower case, no spaces"

Obviously, that's "twentyeight"

That would completely flummox any spam bot, but anybody with the most basic of maths skills would get past that incredibly easily. Much better than questions like "Are you a spambot?" which don't work against them any more.
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:38 pm

Okay sounds good, take your time, no need to rush. :)

@Rag,

Wrong movie :wink:
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:45 pm

MrCrowley wrote:@Rag: Wrong movie :wink:

Crud. Has the Internet's obsession with 300 died now then?
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Unread postAuthor: jackssmirkingrevenge » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:26 am

Ragnarok wrote:Crud. Has the Internet's obsession with 300 died now then?


perish

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thought

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Unread postAuthor: Novacastrian » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:47 am

Bloody awesome JSR, nice to know what goes around comes around! :D

BTW- PCGUY- Can i borrow 10000 spudbux, that Casino feature you have is addictive..... :D
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Unread postAuthor: MrCrowley » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:22 am

Haha PCGUY the loan shark :lol:

He wouldn't do that to us... :)
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Unread postAuthor: frogy » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:17 am

Jesus guys, this kid is a loose cannon. Perm banned off APC for being an asshat and asking how to get chemicals to make fireworks, behind his parents backs.

I've been trying to find a link between "BombBuilder" on APC and "CannonCreator, here on SF.... and now I just fought it in this thread....

He was asking if he should make a PayPal account saying he's 18 so he can buy chemicals illegally, to make illegal explosives...

He was trying to order chemicals to make flash powder with a fake ID or something... By the way, flash powder is an illegal explosive, that technically only licensed pyrotechnician should be able to mix... It is possible to make it safely if you know what you are doing, but this kid (14 years old), didn't even know the formula or any safety precautions for it and he was trying to order chemicals for it....

This kind of action severely hurts the pyrotechnic community, and the name BombBuilder didn't help it any at all...


I don't care if he's here at SpudFiles, but I'm just warning you, he's been known to try and do dangerous, highly illegal things behind his parents backs...

Here's his APC member page if it matters to you...
http://www.apcforum.net/forums/index.php?showuser=3158

You may have to be a member to see it...


If he's straightened up, and hasn't done anything wrong here, there's no reason to ban him, but if there's a pyrotechnic section (ever), he shouldn't be allowed in it, unless he's proved himself a non-idiot.
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Unread postAuthor: Hotwired » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:54 am

*shifty look*

I was only about 8 when I was dissasembling cluster fireworks the day after the big public display and before the council guys came along to clear them up. Theres never a 100% ignition rate on those things y'know. Well not the first time round anyway... *cough*

Age doesn't mean anything much.

Making spudguns is hardly on the safe side of legal itself ^_^

Pcguy's said theres not much chance of there being a pyro section so theres not likely to be a problem on this site.
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Unread postAuthor: frogy » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:50 pm

I have no problem with any age making Spud guns... and I know there's not restrictions here. For this reason (but not this reason alone), there shouldn't be a pyro section... Even a kid that would make explosives behind his parents back could make spud guns safely...
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Unread postAuthor: Ragnarok » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:04 pm

frogy wrote:I've been trying to find a link between "BombBuilder" on APC and "CannonCreator, here on SF.... and now I just fought it in this thread....

Just the avatar and the matches between the user names (both have alteration, and follow the pattern "potentially dangerous object" + "person who constructs it") would have been enough proof for me.

Similarities in writing style would have made it final for me.
You're obviously rather more thorough than I am.
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Unread postAuthor: SpudBlaster15 » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:59 pm

Ragnarok wrote:Fortunately, chemistry requires some brain power to do, so people aren't blowing themselves up left, right and centre.
Spudguns don't require so many brains, and if you put information about pyro on this site then you'll get people looking at it, copying and then making Mr Meerdink's mistake.


Exactly. I began studying pyrotechnic chemistry at the age of 13, and upon gaining interest in Spudguns roughly a year ago, I was appalled by the lack of intelligence within Spudfiles. To this day, I can only think of 10 - 20 Spudfiles members who have demonstrated above average brain power, as opposed to the majority of individuals who reside on discussion sites such as rec.pyrotechnics (Google group), The E&W forum, and even the Backyard Ballistics section of Totse.

The majority of individuals here know the absolute basics of spudding; How piston valves work, how to construct a pressure vessel, how to solvent weld, how to build a breech loading setup, the absolute basic operating principles of combustion launchers ("Use online calculator to find fuel meter pressure, put pressure in meter, put fuel in chamber, ignite, potato flies out of the barrel"), pneumatic launchers ("Pressurize air chamber, open pilot valve, pressure vents from pilot chamber, chamber pressure opens valve, air pushes projectile out of the barrel"), and hybrid launchers ("Put excess fuel in chamber, add air pressure to balance the ratio, ignite; pressure rise ruptures burst disk, projectile flies out barrel"), and some grade 8 level mathematics formulas that allow them to figure out volume ratios. These are the people who direct my vote towards NO.

The safe manufacturing of pyrotechnic devices requires A LOT more brain power than these individuals demonstrate. The 10 - 20 individuals I mentioned do demonstrate this ability, however, they comprise about (WAG) 5 - 10% of the forum's active population, which means there would still be a massive influx of idiots attempting to make KMnO4/Mg flash powder with a mortar and pestle in a cluttered garage while their parents were at work, using chemical proportions they found on the internet.

For example, CannonCreator was able to build Spudguns "safely", but will likely cause his own death due to lack of cognitive function, as demonstrated by this post on The APC forum;

BombBuilder AKA CannonCreator wrote:Is this a good Flash powder recipet, or is this the only one?

Kno3- 5g

Sulphur- 3g

Aluminum- 2g


Gotta love Mumbles' reply.:D

Correlating a pyrotechnics forum with Spudfiles is a BAD idea.
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Unread postAuthor: clide » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:35 pm

frogy wrote:I've been trying to find a link between "BombBuilder" on APC and "CannonCreator, here on SF.... and now I just fought it in this thread....


The fact that he said he was CannonCreator is a pretty strong link to me. http://www.apcforum.net/forums/index.ph ... st&p=24641
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Unread postAuthor: DYI » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:49 pm

I really need to get into that group of 20 people...

But I've never really had much of an interest in explosives or pyrotechnics in general. They're fiddly, rather difficult to obtain materials for, and almost invariably illegal. It's not that I lack the capacity to understand them, only the will to learn about them.

And clide, you can't get evidence much more concrete than that...
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